May Day 10 Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 You know what's going to happen if there is any smoke to this fire: they'll throw the lowly ball assistant under the bus in the media, set him up with some nice arrangement so he won't talk, and we can get back to talking about the sheer precision and dominance of this football team. we will be told "everybody does it" or "its not explicitly against the rulebook" or "youre just a biased Pats hater".... or "they won the game easily anyways" any one or more of those mantras will be fed and are already being fed. The NFL is in its best interest to make this go away and not taint the Superbowl so nothing will happen. No doubt. Our best hope is Irsay gets liquored up and makes a big deal out of it. I would be irate if I were the Colts. and yes, people wonder how the Patriots "do it" with all new casts of characters and misfits like Blount and plug and play on defense. No matter what injuries, FA losses, botched draft picks, here they are. I wonder how they do it..... hmmm.....
CountDorkula Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Billy boy needs to be suspended for the Superbowl if true. You think the pats care if they lose draft picks? Fine the owner $10MM Fine the coach $5MM and suspended him for the SB. Give them 0 draft picks next year.
Captain_Quint Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 High school/college/NFL each team brings their own game balls that they use when on offense. The balls are switched out after change of possession. Refs always check the footballs pre game to make sure they are properly inflated and not altered or scuffed up So if this is true, it was done to benefit the Pats offense and maybe limit turnovers due to the weather? The Colts would have used the same footballs that they always use if the above is true.
plenzmd1 Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Have Mike and Mike on in the background, not one mention of this yet. For the record, I believe this is much ado about nothing, but it is a story and has been confirmed by NFL it is being investigated and should be reported.
nucci Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 They deflated the balls in the elevator and it's impossible to know what happens in elevators. Nice
QB Bills Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Business comes before fair play in today's NFL. Too much money involved. Its unfortunate, but even if they did cheat, nothing will come of this, I would imagine.
Casey D Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 So if this is true, it was done to benefit the Pats offense and maybe limit turnovers due to the weather? The Colts would have used the same footballs that they always use if the above is true. No, apparently not. Each team provides its own balls for offense that they maintain control over. I did not know that until this morning.
Ted William's frozen head Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 I !@#$ing hate those guys. I throw/catch passes for exercise. (I can throw a nice spiral about 25 yards) A slightly under inflated ball is easier to throw, AND easier to catch. *Much* easier on fingers catching it as well
Casey D Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 I throw/catch passes for exercise. (I can throw a nice spiral about 25 yards) A slightly under inflated ball is easier to throw, AND easier to catch. *Much* easier on fingers catching it as well Yes, it is like a corked bat in baseball.
Jobu Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Send the balls to the league office and they will mysteriously vanish. Probably what will happen. Bet you a dollar nothing will come of this. Did this affect the outcome of the game? No. Patriots still would have killed the Colts. However, cheating is still cheating and the Patriots* seem to do it and get caught more than any other team. The fact the league allows this crap to continue with little or no meaningful punishment says a lot about the state of the league.
HalftimeAdjustment Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 So do we have to call them the Patriots** now? Or is there an easy symbol for a second offense?
Captain_Quint Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) No, apparently not. Each team provides its own balls for offense that they maintain control over. I did not know that until this morning. This article says differently: According to NFL rules, home teams are required to provide 36 balls for outdoor games and make the balls available for testing with a pressure gauge prior to the game. http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2015/01/19/nfl-reportedly-investigating-if-patriots-used-deflated-footballs-in-afc/ This one says differently: http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2015/01/report_patriots_may_have_deflated_footballs_for_af.html An NFL football must be inflated with between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds of air per the league's rule book. In addition, home and road teams must each provide 12 game balls to be inspected by the league 135 minutes before game time. The home team also has to have 12 reserve game balls on hand to be tested. Edited January 19, 2015 by Captain_Quint
mead107 Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 I never seen them change out the ball after int.
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Once a cheater, always a cheater. Just my opinion, they never stopped what they were originally accused of doing. They have been a 2nd half monster in too many games. I know that upsets some fanboys of the legends here…so be it. Again, my opinion, that Spygate and the associated cover up by the league, sent the message that the league will do almost anything to preserve the illusion of integrity. In the minds of extremely intelligent cheaters and criminals, that represents a large swath of gray area in which to operate…safely. Kind of a Double Jeopardy situation - absolutely no freaking way Goodell wants to deal with that again. They even got all the other owners to turn their backs on the integrity of the game and protect the golden goose. Just in these playoffs, we have accusations from the Ravens on the illegality of their formations, and now this.
ko12010 Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Spygate, deflated footballs, headset frequency issues, officials in the owner's back pocket. All coincidence??? No, they're just a model franchise! And the Bills are just losers.
YoloinOhio Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 @YahooSports_NFL: Patriots quarterback Tom Brady dubs deflate-gate accusations 'ridiculous' http://t.co/MtvRnKC8Nb#NFL
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 caption this meet me in the shower in 15 minutes
RyanC883 Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Ground up and in the freezer! Deflating the ball is an advantage to the ball handlers (hehe) particularly in poor weather@bkravitz: Told if a league investigation confirms deflated footballs it will result in lost draft picks. Stay tuned. It has reached the point with the Cheating Pats that they deserve the college football equivalent of the death penalty. (then LA can build an expansion team). Robert Kraft should be banned from the NFL, along with Bellicheat. At the very least, kick them out of the Superbowl, and take away their 1st round picks for the next decade. Edited January 19, 2015 by RyanC883
judman Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Goodelle needs to forget that he was Robert Kraft's prom date. Anything remotely close to sweeping this thing under the rug will (should) ruin him. Edited January 19, 2015 by judman
stevestojan Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 Oh Jesus Christ, they won by 38 points. They could have been using a marshmallow and this wouldn't have mattered. This is getting old and makes us look like jealous idiots. And for theove of God, enough with the asterisks askter the name Pats. It's childish, but more importantly MAKES NO SENSE. You're not questioning their name. If you want to use it after one of the Titles (should you mention one of those), it's still childish, but at lease it makes sense - if that's what you're going after.
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