New England Patriots caught deflating game balls

[4merper4mer]

If they find it true, they should take the win away from the Pats immediately and send Indy to the SB

I think the rule is that they send the next finisher in the culprit's division.

[Fadingpain]

I don't think a disqualification from the game is too severe for this type of thing.

 

It won't happen though.

 

The NFL's approach to this should be absolute no tolerance.

 

You get caught deliberately cheating in this type of pre-meditated way in an effort to skew the outcome of the game, you get disqualified...and lose draft picks...and get fined...and yes, a suspension for the HC is not out of line either.

 

You just can't have teams cheating if you want to maintain integrity in the game.

[May Day 10]

I'm so sick of this. I would be furious if I were a Colts fan. With the knowledge of deflated fout balls the patriots could plan to pound it with Blount and throw short passes to edelman 500 times and also do things like dump it off to a tackle. Meanwhile that completely undermines indy's offense let alone they didn't have knowledge to plan for it. I'm sure the patriots also practiced all week for the change in physics (and also have likely done it before)

 

Belichick should be out a year and also draft pix gone due to the recurrence of these things

Edited January 19, 2015 by May Day 10

[Roger Goodell]

After a thorough investigation, the NFL has concluded there was no wrongdoing regarding the footballs used in the AFC Championship game.

[bills_fan_in_raleigh]

This story does not surprise me in any way. I would also bet that they have some other undiscovered yet advantage.

Edited January 19, 2015 by bills_fan_in_raleigh

[nucci]

After a thorough investigation, the NFL has concluded there was no wrongdoing regarding the footballs used in the AFC Championship game.

You already destroy the evidence, Roger?

[Iraq Vet]

IF true... They should lose a 1st and 7th round pick. One in the beginning and end of the draft. That way no one will think of doing that again. If course that also helps the Bills.

[Wayne Cubed]

ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk

League confirms Patriots ball-deflation investigation http://wp.me/p14QSB-9GLI

[mabden]

I think the rule is that they send the next finisher in the culprit's division.

 

And they get all of their draft picks this year and next.

[peterpan]

I don't think a disqualification from the game is too severe for this type of thing.

 

It won't happen though.

 

The NFL's approach to this should be absolute no tolerance.

 

You get caught deliberately cheating in this type of pre-meditated way in an effort to skew the outcome of the game, you get disqualified...and lose draft picks...and get fined...and yes, a suspension for the HC is not out of line either.

 

You just can't have teams cheating if you want to maintain integrity in the game.

 

 

I'm so sick of this. I would be furious if I were a Colts fan. With the knowledge of deflated fout balls the patriots could plan to pound it with Blount and throw short passes to edelman 500 times and also do things like dump it off to a tackle. Meanwhile that completely undermines indy's offense let alone they didn't have knowledge to plan for it. I'm sure the patriots also practiced all week for the change in physics (and also have likely done it before)

 

Belichick should be out a year and also draft pix gone due to the recurrence of these things

 

 

IF true... They should lose a 1st and 7th round pick. One in the beginning and end of the draft. That way no one will think of doing that again. If course that also helps the Bills.

 

This is another tarnished season for the Cheatriots* and Belicheat* The NFL is not enforcing the declared ineligible rule properly and they are gimmickly beating teams because of it. NO WAY they beat Baltimore without that deception. Declaring you are ineligible as your team breaks the huddle is not giving the D a reasonable amount of time to adjust, as the rule states is required.

 

They under inflated the footballs - DELIBERATE cheating. AGAIN. They cheat beacuse a slap on the wrist for a super bowl is NOTHING!!!

 

The Pats opponents are ALWAYS reporting to have "problems" with their communication during games. Like the QBs headset goes out on a critical third down etc. This is not new or old. Its always in the news. They are cheating!!!

 

Watching that Patriot offense last night, There is zero doubt in my mind, they are still getting the other teams defensive calls. Its just the most simple offense in the world. They either A) run the ball straight ahead with no counters or mis direction, B) throw a 3 yard flat pass to a wide open WR, C) 5 yard drag route to a wide open WR or D) throw it up the seam to Gronk.

 

With that type of techmo-bowl offense teams should easily be able to stop them. BUT! The pats always seem to have the right play called at the right time. If there happens to be a blitz, WOW! The pats called the perfect play to exploit it. Coincidence? nope, more like CHEATING!! Seriously? When was the last time the Bills called a Screen pass on the same snap where the D called an all out blitz and it worked so super well? NEVER! The Pats do that type of 'wow what a play call' for 9 plays in a row on a 9 play TD drive! its ridiculous.

 

I am still in shock and aw that the Pats Super Bowl wins were not vacated. It makes business sense for the NFL to just gloss this over and pretend it didnt happen, as cheating your way to the superbowl and admitting it happened could diminish your product. Thats one line of thinking. The other is now, I have no respect for the League and basically think it is rigged. The Patriots are still cheating and every fan knows it. Every football fan outside of NE with be rooting for the Seahawks because they hate the cheating Patriots.

 

A proper punishment for Spygate would have been vacating all of those wins, SB, playoffs, regular season, everything. Then you Suspend Belicheat for LIFE. yes, a LIFETIME ban from the NFL. That would be a fitting punishment for the !@#$ign loser. But to me that is stll not enough. I'd give the Patriots Org the NFL equivalent of the NCAA 'Death Penalty' and not let them have a team for two whole years. Everyone on their roster is a Free agent. Not draft picks for two years. Then let them come back as a expansion franchise. That may be unrealistic tho, Im not sure how you have a division like the AFCE with only 3 teams in it? But who cares, figure that part out. Cheaters are cheaters and they were not properly dealt with the first umpteen times.

 

But now the NFL has another chance to PROPERLY deal with these cheaters. They make them forfeit the game. PLain and simple, you got caught cheating, you forfeit. Colts go to the Superbowl. I really hope the Colts file a lawsuit about this or something.

 

This happened here in Section 5 football this year, Aquinas is a football powerhouse and has a QB getting recuited by Notre Dame and the like. He got injured this year and sat out a few games. Because he stood on the sideline in sweatpants instead of dressing and wearing his pads, he, by rule, was not eligible to play in the sectional playoffs. But he played, and after beating Pittsford, they made an issue of it. Whomever the ruling body was, ruled that Aquinas would have to forfeit and Pittsford advanced even though they got manhandled in the game. THATS WHAT REAL ORGANIZATIONS DO. The NCAA would vacate ALL of the Patriots wins and suspend their football team for 2 years. HS football would make the Pats forfeit and let the Colts advance. This is exactly what the NFL should do to these CHEATERS

And you know what, the Bills should file a grience too. Yes we suck and yes we have sucked for a long time. But do you know what? I bet you dollars to donuts the Patriots cheated when they beat us at home this year. I gauren!@#$ingtee it. The Bills could have made the playoffs with that win. Then Dougy M doesnt quit. Schwartz doesnt leave. Think of the money Pegula spent just on jet fuel flying around looking for a new coach.

 

Ill go back even further. in 2004 the Bills missed the playoffs by 1 game by going 9-7. Yep, I just checked, 2 loses to NE. TNE cheated in BOTH of the games, as we know now from Spygate. That could be two wins, heck even one win, and the Bills make the playoffs!!!

 

We are a schit franchise but we have been good enough a few season to make it in. But we cant beat the Patriots AND their cheating. The suckballs

[Tu-Toned]

The game was still fairly close and definitely not out of reach at halftime.

If this is found to be true, then they should deflate Tom Brady's balls.

 

But he would need to grow a pair first.

[peterpan]

The game was still fairly close and definitely not out of reach at halftime.

If this is found to be true, then they should deflate Tom Brady's balls.

 

But he would need to grow a pair first.

Yep, it was a 10 point game at half.

[ko12010]

 

 

 

 

 

This is another tarnished season for the Cheatriots* and Belicheat* The NFL is not enforcing the declared ineligible rule properly and they are gimmickly beating teams because of it. NO WAY they beat Baltimore without that deception. Declaring you are ineligible as your team breaks the huddle is not giving the D a reasonable amount of time to adjust, as the rule states is required.

 

They under inflated the footballs - DELIBERATE cheating. AGAIN. They cheat beacuse a slap on the wrist for a super bowl is NOTHING!!!

 

The Pats opponents are ALWAYS reporting to have "problems" with their communication during games. Like the QBs headset goes out on a critical third down etc. This is not new or old. Its always in the news. They are cheating!!!

 

Watching that Patriot offense last night, There is zero doubt in my mind, they are still getting the other teams defensive calls. Its just the most simple offense in the world. They either A) run the ball straight ahead with no counters or mis direction, B) throw a 3 yard flat pass to a wide open WR, C) 5 yard drag route to a wide open WR or D) throw it up the seam to Gronk.

 

With that type of techmo-bowl offense teams should easily be able to stop them. BUT! The pats always seem to have the right play called at the right time. If there happens to be a blitz, WOW! The pats called the perfect play to exploit it. Coincidence? nope, more like CHEATING!! Seriously? When was the last time the Bills called a Screen pass on the same snap where the D called an all out blitz and it worked so super well? NEVER! The Pats do that type of 'wow what a play call' for 9 plays in a row on a 9 play TD drive! its ridiculous.

 

I am still in shock and aw that the Pats Super Bowl wins were not vacated. It makes business sense for the NFL to just gloss this over and pretend it didnt happen, as cheating your way to the superbowl and admitting it happened could diminish your product. Thats one line of thinking. The other is now, I have no respect for the League and basically think it is rigged. The Patriots are still cheating and every fan knows it. Every football fan outside of NE with be rooting for the Seahawks because they hate the cheating Patriots.

 

A proper punishment for Spygate would have been vacating all of those wins, SB, playoffs, regular season, everything. Then you Suspend Belicheat for LIFE. yes, a LIFETIME ban from the NFL. That would be a fitting punishment for the !@#$ign loser. But to me that is stll not enough. I'd give the Patriots Org the NFL equivalent of the NCAA 'Death Penalty' and not let them have a team for two whole years. Everyone on their roster is a Free agent. Not draft picks for two years. Then let them come back as a expansion franchise. That may be unrealistic tho, Im not sure how you have a division like the AFCE with only 3 teams in it? But who cares, figure that part out. Cheaters are cheaters and they were not properly dealt with the first umpteen times.

 

But now the NFL has another chance to PROPERLY deal with these cheaters. They make them forfeit the game. PLain and simple, you got caught cheating, you forfeit. Colts go to the Superbowl. I really hope the Colts file a lawsuit about this or something.

 

This happened here in Section 5 football this year, Aquinas is a football powerhouse and has a QB getting recuited by Notre Dame and the like. He got injured this year and sat out a few games. Because he stood on the sideline in sweatpants instead of dressing and wearing his pads, he, by rule, was not eligible to play in the sectional playoffs. But he played, and after beating Pittsford, they made an issue of it. Whomever the ruling body was, ruled that Aquinas would have to forfeit and Pittsford advanced even though they got manhandled in the game. THATS WHAT REAL ORGANIZATIONS DO. The NCAA would vacate ALL of the Patriots wins and suspend their football team for 2 years. HS football would make the Pats forfeit and let the Colts advance. This is exactly what the NFL should do to these CHEATERS

And you know what, the Bills should file a grience too. Yes we suck and yes we have sucked for a long time. But do you know what? I bet you dollars to donuts the Patriots cheated when they beat us at home this year. I gauren!@#$ingtee it. The Bills could have made the playoffs with that win. Then Dougy M doesnt quit. Schwartz doesnt leave. Think of the money Pegula spent just on jet fuel flying around looking for a new coach.

 

Ill go back even further. in 2004 the Bills missed the playoffs by 1 game by going 9-7. Yep, I just checked, 2 loses to NE. TNE cheated in BOTH of the games, as we know now from Spygate. That could be two wins, heck even one win, and the Bills make the playoffs!!!

 

We are a schit franchise but we have been good enough a few season to make it in. But we cant beat the Patriots AND their cheating. The suckballs

Great post, but Goodell is BFF's with Kraft, so...nothing will happen. But I agree, I've felt it all along--these guys are still cheating. And it has to do with knowing defensive signals and being alerted to the proper read. I just hope it's discovered and broken wide open. When you look at that roster, they are simply not that f***** good. Solid, balanced, yes, but not a dominant force that just sh*ts on a good team like Indy in the AFC Championship game. Belicheck is a genius and Brady is great, but they're still doing shady things.

 

And this game was yet another example of the Pats* making the PERFECT halftime adjustments and blowing open a somewhat close halftime game with ease.

Edited January 19, 2015 by ko12010

[White Linen]

You already destroy the evidence, Roger?

 

They deflated the balls in the elevator and it's impossible to know what happens in elevators.

[QB Bills]

 

 

 

 

 

This is another tarnished season for the Cheatriots* and Belicheat* The NFL is not enforcing the declared ineligible rule properly and they are gimmickly beating teams because of it. NO WAY they beat Baltimore without that deception. Declaring you are ineligible as your team breaks the huddle is not giving the D a reasonable amount of time to adjust, as the rule states is required.

 

They under inflated the footballs - DELIBERATE cheating. AGAIN. They cheat beacuse a slap on the wrist for a super bowl is NOTHING!!!

 

The Pats opponents are ALWAYS reporting to have "problems" with their communication during games. Like the QBs headset goes out on a critical third down etc. This is not new or old. Its always in the news. They are cheating!!!

 

Watching that Patriot offense last night, There is zero doubt in my mind, they are still getting the other teams defensive calls. Its just the most simple offense in the world. They either A) run the ball straight ahead with no counters or mis direction, B) throw a 3 yard flat pass to a wide open WR, C) 5 yard drag route to a wide open WR or D) throw it up the seam to Gronk.

 

With that type of techmo-bowl offense teams should easily be able to stop them. BUT! The pats always seem to have the right play called at the right time. If there happens to be a blitz, WOW! The pats called the perfect play to exploit it. Coincidence? nope, more like CHEATING!! Seriously? When was the last time the Bills called a Screen pass on the same snap where the D called an all out blitz and it worked so super well? NEVER! The Pats do that type of 'wow what a play call' for 9 plays in a row on a 9 play TD drive! its ridiculous.

 

I am still in shock and aw that the Pats Super Bowl wins were not vacated. It makes business sense for the NFL to just gloss this over and pretend it didnt happen, as cheating your way to the superbowl and admitting it happened could diminish your product. Thats one line of thinking. The other is now, I have no respect for the League and basically think it is rigged. The Patriots are still cheating and every fan knows it. Every football fan outside of NE with be rooting for the Seahawks because they hate the cheating Patriots.

 

A proper punishment for Spygate would have been vacating all of those wins, SB, playoffs, regular season, everything. Then you Suspend Belicheat for LIFE. yes, a LIFETIME ban from the NFL. That would be a fitting punishment for the !@#$ign loser. But to me that is stll not enough. I'd give the Patriots Org the NFL equivalent of the NCAA 'Death Penalty' and not let them have a team for two whole years. Everyone on their roster is a Free agent. Not draft picks for two years. Then let them come back as a expansion franchise. That may be unrealistic tho, Im not sure how you have a division like the AFCE with only 3 teams in it? But who cares, figure that part out. Cheaters are cheaters and they were not properly dealt with the first umpteen times.

 

But now the NFL has another chance to PROPERLY deal with these cheaters. They make them forfeit the game. PLain and simple, you got caught cheating, you forfeit. Colts go to the Superbowl. I really hope the Colts file a lawsuit about this or something.

 

This happened here in Section 5 football this year, Aquinas is a football powerhouse and has a QB getting recuited by Notre Dame and the like. He got injured this year and sat out a few games. Because he stood on the sideline in sweatpants instead of dressing and wearing his pads, he, by rule, was not eligible to play in the sectional playoffs. But he played, and after beating Pittsford, they made an issue of it. Whomever the ruling body was, ruled that Aquinas would have to forfeit and Pittsford advanced even though they got manhandled in the game. THATS WHAT REAL ORGANIZATIONS DO. The NCAA would vacate ALL of the Patriots wins and suspend their football team for 2 years. HS football would make the Pats forfeit and let the Colts advance. This is exactly what the NFL should do to these CHEATERS

 

And you know what, the Bills should file a grience too. Yes we suck and yes we have sucked for a long time. But do you know what? I bet you dollars to donuts the Patriots cheated when they beat us at home this year. I gauren!@#$ingtee it. The Bills could have made the playoffs with that win. Then Dougy M doesnt quit. Schwartz doesnt leave. Think of the money Pegula spent just on jet fuel flying around looking for a new coach.

 

Ill go back even further. in 2004 the Bills missed the playoffs by 1 game by going 9-7. Yep, I just checked, 2 loses to NE. TNE cheated in BOTH of the games, as we know now from Spygate. That could be two wins, heck even one win, and the Bills make the playoffs!!!

 

We are a schit franchise but we have been good enough a few season to make it in. But we cant beat the Patriots AND their cheating. The suckballs

Fly Peter, fly.

[Tu-Toned]

Goodell will destroy the footballs! After a thorough investigation of course.

[bills_fan_in_raleigh]

This is another tarnished season for the Cheatriots* and Belicheat* The NFL is not enforcing the declared ineligible rule properly and they are gimmickly beating teams because of it. NO WAY they beat Baltimore without that deception. Declaring you are ineligible as your team breaks the huddle is not giving the D a reasonable amount of time to adjust, as the rule states is required.

 

They under inflated the footballs - DELIBERATE cheating. AGAIN. They cheat beacuse a slap on the wrist for a super bowl is NOTHING!!!

 

The Pats opponents are ALWAYS reporting to have "problems" with their communication during games. Like the QBs headset goes out on a critical third down etc. This is not new or old. Its always in the news. They are cheating!!!

 

Watching that Patriot offense last night, There is zero doubt in my mind, they are still getting the other teams defensive calls. Its just the most simple offense in the world. They either A) run the ball straight ahead with no counters or mis direction, B) throw a 3 yard flat pass to a wide open WR, C) 5 yard drag route to a wide open WR or D) throw it up the seam to Gronk.

 

With that type of techmo-bowl offense teams should easily be able to stop them. BUT! The pats always seem to have the right play called at the right time. If there happens to be a blitz, WOW! The pats called the perfect play to exploit it. Coincidence? nope, more like CHEATING!! Seriously? When was the last time the Bills called a Screen pass on the same snap where the D called an all out blitz and it worked so super well? NEVER! The Pats do that type of 'wow what a play call' for 9 plays in a row on a 9 play TD drive! its ridiculous.

 

I am still in shock and aw that the Pats Super Bowl wins were not vacated. It makes business sense for the NFL to just gloss this over and pretend it didnt happen, as cheating your way to the superbowl and admitting it happened could diminish your product. Thats one line of thinking. The other is now, I have no respect for the League and basically think it is rigged. The Patriots are still cheating and every fan knows it. Every football fan outside of NE with be rooting for the Seahawks because they hate the cheating Patriots.

 

A proper punishment for Spygate would have been vacating all of those wins, SB, playoffs, regular season, everything. Then you Suspend Belicheat for LIFE. yes, a LIFETIME ban from the NFL. That would be a fitting punishment for the !@#$ign loser. But to me that is stll not enough. I'd give the Patriots Org the NFL equivalent of the NCAA 'Death Penalty' and not let them have a team for two whole years. Everyone on their roster is a Free agent. Not draft picks for two years. Then let them come back as a expansion franchise. That may be unrealistic tho, Im not sure how you have a division like the AFCE with only 3 teams in it? But who cares, figure that part out. Cheaters are cheaters and they were not properly dealt with the first umpteen times.

 

But now the NFL has another chance to PROPERLY deal with these cheaters. They make them forfeit the game. PLain and simple, you got caught cheating, you forfeit. Colts go to the Superbowl. I really hope the Colts file a lawsuit about this or something.

 

This happened here in Section 5 football this year, Aquinas is a football powerhouse and has a QB getting recuited by Notre Dame and the like. He got injured this year and sat out a few games. Because he stood on the sideline in sweatpants instead of dressing and wearing his pads, he, by rule, was not eligible to play in the sectional playoffs. But he played, and after beating Pittsford, they made an issue of it. Whomever the ruling body was, ruled that Aquinas would have to forfeit and Pittsford advanced even though they got manhandled in the game. THATS WHAT REAL ORGANIZATIONS DO. The NCAA would vacate ALL of the Patriots wins and suspend their football team for 2 years. HS football would make the Pats forfeit and let the Colts advance. This is exactly what the NFL should do to these CHEATERSAnd you know what, the Bills should file a grience too. Yes we suck and yes we have sucked for a long time. But do you know what? I bet you dollars to donuts the Patriots cheated when they beat us at home this year. I gauren!@#$ingtee it. The Bills could have made the playoffs with that win. Then Dougy M doesnt quit. Schwartz doesnt leave. Think of the money Pegula spent just on jet fuel flying around looking for a new coach.

 

Ill go back even further. in 2004 the Bills missed the playoffs by 1 game by going 9-7. Yep, I just checked, 2 loses to NE. TNE cheated in BOTH of the games, as we know now from Spygate. That could be two wins, heck even one win, and the Bills make the playoffs!!!

 

We are a schit franchise but we have been good enough a few season to make it in. But we cant beat the Patriots AND their cheating. The suckballs

Like I said earlier I believe they have another advantage not yet discovered. I still think the hoodie has somehow gotten the feed from opposing defenses no way they always call the perfect play. How often do the call a screen and a blitz blows it up completely? the best with the ineligible receivers stuff is just plain wrong and the NFL is getting tarnished by the Pats* as. U u as Ray rice

[RuntheDamnBall]

You know what's going to happen if there is any smoke to this fire: they'll throw the lowly ball assistant under the bus in the media, set him up with some nice arrangement so he won't talk, and we can get back to talking about the sheer precision and dominance of this football team.

[peterpan]

I think its important the note that while most people remeber Spygate for taping other teams signals, it was much much more than that.

 

"But it wasn’t just a matter of filming opposing team’s coaches — it was also how that information was allegedly passed to Brady.

As the scandal broke, the NFL was investigating a possible violation into the number of radio frequencies the Patriots were using during the Jets game, sources told ESPN’s Chris Mortensen, who reported at the time that the Pats did not “have a satisfactory explanation when asked about possible irregularities in its communication setup during the game.”

Quarterbacks communicate with the sidelines via microphones in their helmets that pick up an NFL-monitored radio frequency. An NFL sideline official cuts off communications on this frequency 15 seconds before the play clock runs out.

Offensive plays would be called based on stolen signals and the information relayed straight to Brady’s helmet, O’Leary theorizes.

In this scenario, the extra frequency is critical, as it allows the team to do something in real time with the stolen signals, out of earshot of the NFL monitor, and change its plays accordingly.

If there’s an open channel during the play itself, you can also alert the quarterback to open receivers he may not see.

O’Leary repeats a rumor that Pats backup quarterback Doug Flutie once said he accidentally picked up Brady’s helmet during the 2005 season.

“He was amazed that the coaches kept right on speaking to Brady past the 15-second cutoff, right up until the snap,” ­according to O’Leary.

“The voice in Tom Brady’s helmet was explaining the exact defense he was about to face.”

That same year, Pats linebacker Ted Johnson told USA Today that an hour before game time, a list of the opposing team’s audibles — the signals a QB would use at the line of scrimmage just before a snap to change the play — would sometimes appear in his locker. He had no idea where the lists came from. Three years later, he said he was as surprised as anyone to hear about the cheating allegations.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/12/they-are-cheaters-spygate-the-nfl-scandal-that-started-it-all/

I think people are very very right to question how good Tom Brady really is. I mean, he stands there un touched and throw 5 yard passes to wide open wide recievers. He knows the Defense before the snap. He is told about it in his helmet. Jamarcus Russel could win with that info

[Tu-Toned]

Spygate, deflated footballs, headset frequency issues, officials in the owner's back pocket.

All coincidence???