Max997 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) For a box of tape? The dude single handed put the Seahawks on his back today. Beast mode indeed... and without fail, every time the Seahawks play on national TV someone feels the need to start a why did Buddy trade Lynch thread if you dont know by now then you never will Edited January 19, 2015 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 We got a pair of draft picks for a player who was leaving town anyways. They ended up being crap players but given the Bills recent draft history that's not surprising the problem is not that the Bills blew their picks - picks are lottery tickets. You can get better or worse at it, but that was fair enough compensation at the time. The problem was that they habitually put players in positions where they couldn't succeed, they became devalued, and they returned us less than their actual value. That they went on to succeed elsewhere is an indictment of the stiffs they've had coaching, and the lack of talent the team has cultivated over the years - especially in places like the offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 No matter how anyone tries to downplay Marshawn Lynch, he's a huge part of why the Seahawks have been to 2 straight superbowls. The drafting of CJ Spiller and essentially giving away Marshawn Lynch is one of the biggest blunders in Buffalo Bills history. And that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) I understand why he was traded. but hate the fact in came to that and Lynch was run out of town. For people to discredit what Lynch has done is laughable. Fred Jackson is better? In what world is this? Lynch is better in every single way. He is a top 3 RB in the NFL. Edited January 19, 2015 by CountDorkula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Fred Jackson made Marshawn look like Trent Richardson True. Look how badly lynch regressed his final years here. He was bad. I will say that lynch was able to figure out how to be a good runner makes me think that there is hope for a guy like Richardson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 True. Look how badly lynch regressed his final years here. He was bad. I will say that lynch was able to figure out how to be a good runner makes me think that there is hope for a guy like Richardson. Lynch never regressed. He was in a terrible situation and didn't really care, and didn't want to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I understand why he was traded. but hate the fact in came to that and Lynch was run out of town. For people to discredit what Lynch has done is laughable. Fred Jackson is better? In what world is this? Lynch is better in every single way. He is a top 3 RB in the NFL. Fred was more in sync with the offense and could deal without a very good o-line. I think Lynch was clearly unfocused here and that played a part. That's on the coaches (and maturity level). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Lynch never regressed. He was in a terrible situation and didn't really care, and didn't want to be here. He even admitted he didn't even bother studying here. I think he figured out his craft (and probably got better coaching) in Seattle. But in his last two years here, Jackson hit the hole, and lynch just danced for 2 yards and a cloud of dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I understand why he was traded. but hate the fact in came to that and Lynch was run out of town. For people to discredit what Lynch has done is laughable. Fred Jackson is better? In what world is this? Lynch is better in every single way. He is a top 3 RB in the NFL. You obviously were not a Bills fan in the years 2009-2010. Fred Jackson was far and away the better player, and it's not even debatable. Not to mention FJ is a captain and model citizen off the field, while Lynch was one strike away from being gone for a year. We traded Lynch because he regressed, and FJ was literally better at everything but goal line. In fact, Lynch was out of a starting job until they decided to showcase him for a trade in 2010. Lynch never ran for over 4.1 YPC as a Bill. Fred Jackson has surpassed that every year of his career but two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hit and run.. gun and drug charges in California... stole money from a woman in a restaurant... run-in's with local police... bad mouthed the area and every opportunity... bad press all day every day.... He was a cancer in this community!!! And he never displayed the type of play he has with Seattle... Whn you talk about a bad football tradr, did Buddy get fleeced?... Hell Yes!!!! But when you talk about a bad fit in a community, Lynch was nothing but trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 You obviously were not a Bills fan in the years 2009-2010. Fred Jackson was far and away the better player, and it's not even debatable. Not to mention FJ is a captain and model citizen off the field, while Lynch was one strike away from being gone for a year. We traded Lynch because he regressed, and FJ was literally better at everything but goal line. In fact, Lynch was out of a starting job until they decided to showcase him for a trade in 2010. Lynch never ran for over 4.1 YPC as a Bill. Fred Jackson has surpassed that every year of his career but two. Yes i was and I know the story. Its just magic that Lynch had the best start to a Bills career since OJ and people forget that. and Now he is a top 3 RB every year. Lynch - 8K + yds FJ - 5K + yds Lynch is better in every way. No discredit to FJ. Love the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 last year in the superbowl he ran 15 times for a whopping 39 yards. He'll fold again this year. the guy is a loser and a thug. seattle is sick of him too. imagine percy harvin and lynch on your team. yikes. the hawks will dump him this offseason. Fail. Marshawns thankful for your opinion though. No matter how anyone tries to downplay Marshawn Lynch, he's a huge part of why the Seahawks have been to 2 straight superbowls. The drafting of CJ Spiller and essentially giving away Marshawn Lynch is one of the biggest blunders in Buffalo Bills history. And that's saying something. Beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 For a box of tape? The dude single handed put the Seahawks on his back today. Beast mode indeed... Obviously a great player, but an as**h*le of a human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Yes i was and I know the story. Its just magic that Lynch had the best start to a Bills career since OJ and people forget that. and Now he is a top 3 RB every year. Lynch - 8K + yds FJ - 5K + yds Lynch is better in every way. No discredit to FJ. Love the guy. You obviously don't remember, because you would know that FJ outperformed Lynch while he was here. It's pretty clear you are looking at what Lynch has done in Seattle and assuming he was the same player here. Go watch some tape from 2009 and tell me who the better player was. I'll be waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 You obviously don't remember, because you would know that FJ outperformed Lynch while he was here. It's pretty clear you are looking at what Lynch has done in Seattle and assuming he was the same player here. Go watch some tape from 2009 and tell me who the better player was. I'll be waiting. Did you not see the part where i wrote? "Lynch had the best start to a Buffalo Bills career since OJ Simpson" I know what happened after that. Lynch admitted to not caring. I know what happened. to say FJ is better than Lynch is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Marshawn didn't hate Buffalo. He did wear out his welcome though with the off the field stuff. If the organization was as strong back then as it is now they may have been able to help him before it snowballed (like Dareus). Marshawn is a HOFer. He's a great, great, great player. Hopefully he plays well in 2 weeks and takes down those evil cheaters. If Lynch were playing behind this year's OL and with Orton as his qb he would be an invisible player in this league. This is a franchise that not only gives away Lynch for pittance (situational reasons)but trades Peters away to the Eagles where he becomes a perennial all-pro. This comical organization pays all-star money to two oversized linemen (Dockery and Langston Walker)who couldn't move and play yet ferociously closes its wallet to the player who wants to be paid at a level that is commensurate with his talents. When you create a team pay scale where players who can't play get stunningly large contracts even exceeding what your best lineman gets then contract conflicts are a natural outcome. I have yet to understand why Chad Rhinehart was let go to end up in San Diego where he played well. The Bills ended up replacing him with Colin Brown who was rated as the worst guard in the league. He's probalby out of football. Even if Rhinehart wanted to follow his line coach to San Diego a reasonable bump up in salary would have been enough to keep him with the team. This is a franchise which drafts Kujo in the second round and then he is so overmatched that he should have been cut in the first weeks of training camp. While Whaley drafts the bulky Richardson who was overwhelmed to the extent that he had to be replaced Ozzie Newsom drafts John Urschel (a Buffalo native) from Penn State in the same fifth round. He ends up starting and outperforms all of our linemen. My point is simple. The Bills had arguably the worst OL in the league this year. It was caused by its own self-destructive decisions. Edited January 19, 2015 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 For a box of tape? The dude single handed put the Seahawks on his back today. Beast mode indeed... Russell Wilson is the one that should be a Buffalo Bill. Nope.....gotta draft TJ effin Grahm. And I am not saying this in hindsight. I was yelling at the tv on draft day Let it go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This topic hasn't been discussed enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 If I had one wish for Bills fans it would be to appreciate the talent of Fred Jackson. With the clown show he's had to deal with around him in terms of coaching/qbs/oline, and for him to have done as well as he's done is nothing short of miraculous. I almost wish he was the one traded to Seattle instead of Lynch so he could get the recognition he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Did you not see the part where i wrote? "Lynch had the best start to a Buffalo Bills career since OJ Simpson" I know what happened after that. Lynch admitted to not caring. I know what happened. to say FJ is better than Lynch is laughable. What are you even blabbering about? OJ Simpson didn't even have a good start to his career. Willis McGahee had a better start, and had far more similar numbers to Lynch. OJ had 697, 488, and 742 yards in his first three years. McGahee had 2375 yards and 18 TDs in his first two years combined. Lynch had 2151 yards and 15 TDs in his first two years. So if anything, Lynch had the best start to a career since..... Willis McGahee. In fact, McGahee had 990 yards in his third year as a Bill, which was more than twice Lynch's 450. Edited January 19, 2015 by Fingon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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