Max997 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Revis, we are going to a 3-4. Thats a no brainer. Hughes stunk in a 3-4 scheme in Indy. Dont think for a minute this wasnt a consideration during the entire coach search process. expect Hughes to be gone. Hughes had 8 sacks his last year with Indy and for most part couldn't get on the field bc of Freeney and Mathis so how exactly did he stink? Considering Revis only signed a one year deal with New England and the Pats don't seem to like to tie players up in high money long term contracts, there is a good chance Revis will leave the Pats. Given that he excelled in Rex's defense, I think there is a chance we go after him. With the hiring of Rex, I think Hughes is much more likely to walk. Hughes was traded to us from Indianapolis laregly because he did not excel in the Colts 3-4 scheme. Now Rex is converting the Bills to a 3-4. Also, Mario Williams did not like Wade Philips 3-4 in Houston. Revis did not sign a one year deal with Pats but thinking is his he will be released due to his high cap number
BADOLBILZ Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 It was pettines defense that jerry had a break out year in, which is basically Rex's defense so who knows Dare is no Pettine. Dare was da stache and den dare was da Schwartz. Nuthin wuz in between. No tree-for. Darefore jerry cant play in da tree-for. Its a no'd fack on dis bord.
The Jokeman Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Hughes had 8 sacks his last year with Indy and for most part couldn't get on the field bc of Freeney and Mathis so how exactly did he stink? Revis did not sign a one year deal with Pats but thinking is his he will be released due to his high cap number Look again, Hughes had 4 sacks in his final year in Indy and 5 for his career there. In Buffalo he's amassed 20. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HughJe99.htm
Sojourner Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Neither Justin Houston That would be special but I honestly think that if KC are not able to shell space to resign him then he ends up in Carolina or Atlanta.
3rdand12 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Considering Revis only signed a one year deal with New England and the Pats don't seem to like to tie players up in high money long term contracts, there is a good chance Revis will leave the Pats. Given that he excelled in Rex's defense, I think there is a chance we go after him. With the hiring of Rex, I think Hughes is much more likely to walk. Hughes was traded to us from Indianapolis laregly because he did not excel in the Colts 3-4 scheme. Now Rex is converting the Bills to a 3-4. Also, Mario Williams did not like Wade Philips 3-4 in Houston. what is with this repetition of Ryan running a 3-4 ? The man can run any defense he wishes.He certainly is intelligent and experienced enough. Pettines defense was great fun to watch. but not effective enough against the run. Jim fixed that without any sacrifice. Gee Rex probably cant figure that out and will just be stubborn and run that darned 3-4 just because. I am teasing a bit , but folks really ? Hughes ? too soon. it might be a bean counter decision Neither Justin Houston Hughes leaves ? this is the answer to that. well said BB.
The Jokeman Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) That would be special but I honestly think that if KC are not able to shell space to resign him then he ends up in Carolina or Atlanta. Houston plays out of a 34 am pretty sure Carolina is a 43 team has Greg Hardy due to be an UFA. I realize Hardy was suspended last year and they may be looking to go with someone else but not sure Houston be on their radar. He makes sense to be on the Falcons radar as well as most any team playing a 34 base. The Jets could be players too. As could the Raiders and Jaguars since both have tons of cap space and need help at pass rush. Edited January 15, 2015 by The Jokeman
TPS Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Hughes is getting better and better, and he's got an attitude that fits the ryan tude. I'll be very surprised if they don't keep him.
The Jokeman Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Hughes is getting better and better, and he's got an attitude that fits the ryan tude. I'll be very surprised if they don't keep him. Yeah and Rex has shown in NY he doesn't mind making DEs OLB (see Jason Babin). I feel to keep him he needs to get at least $40M over 4 years and maybe $18M-20M guaranteed which is fair market value. I hope we don't try the "family discount" low ball approach as he's already said he's good as gone if that happens.
Sojourner Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Houston plays out of a 34 am pretty sure Carolina is a 43 team has Greg Hardy due to be an UFA. I realize Hardy was suspended last year and they may be looking to go with someone else but not sure Houston be on their radar. He makes sense to be on the Falcons radar as well as most any team playing a 34 base. The Jets could be players too. As could the Raiders and Jaguars since both have tons of cap space and need help at pass rush. Go watch the Chiefs game. In fact, watch a few of theirs - he has his hand in the dirt quite a lot. I just don't see us shelling out the amount for him that would be required as he is the games premier pass rusher right now. It's a possibility and I would love it if we could but I think if he ends up elsewhere, it's a place that throws the money by the truck-load at him. I could be wrong, which is more often than not.
Agent 91 Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Neither Justin Houston Definite consideration on my part. That name jumped out at me... but wouldn't he command 12 ore so mil consistently? Edited January 15, 2015 by Agent 91
Pete Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Devin McCourty is a player I would like to steal from pats if we can't sign searcy. And Charles Clay what be great for our offense
Uffalo Ills Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Its really not a 3-4 scheme...its a "hybrid" 3-4, meaning its whatever rex wants it to be... Dare is no Pettine. Dare was da stache and den dare was da Schwartz. Nuthin wuz in between. No tree-for. Darefore jerry cant play in da tree-for. Its a no'd fack on dis bord. huh?english please
frogger Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 If I had to pick, Revis, take him away from a rival and create the best secondary in the NFL! Hughes is easier to replace, Revis, graham and Gilmore will cause many coverage sacks
RealityCheck Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 The defense is a 4-3 Under base. Which means very little actually.
GG Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Hughes is getting better and better, and he's got an attitude that fits the ryan tude. I'll be very surprised if they don't keep him. But in the spirit of the thread, if it's a choice between Revis/Chromartie or Hughes, I think Bills go hard after one of the CBs.
Reed83HOF Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Howard WGR @hsimon62 4m4 minutes ago we asked Whaley if Jerry Hughes was signed yet. He said hopefully theyre getting it done now. That would be sweet!
auburnbillsbacker Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 We have about $25m if the cap is $142m. I don't see us pursuing Revis, too costly. If we do go with a 3-4 I might be looking at NT and/or DEs as not sold Kyle Williams fits that system and a veteran LB for depth and/or to start as Hughes isn't the best in that system and I know Mario didn't like playing it in Houston with Wade Phillips. I respectfully disagree with most of this post. Rex Ryan uses a 4 man front a lot. Over the last two days he has expressed his love of Kyle Williams on multiple occasions. I expect our defense will look very similar to last year's defense more times than not. Ryan will probably use more of a variety of defensive formations, but when it comes down to it you will see our two Pro Bowl DTs lined up in a 43. I do agree that Revis will be too costly to consider but I think there is a strong possibility that Hughes is back. He has the versatility to excel in Ryan's system. He can line up as a DE in the 43 or stand up as a linebacker in a 34 front. I have no concerns about our defense. We had great defensive coaching and personnel last year and we will this year as well. It is the QB that has me concerned.
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Howard WGR @hsimon62 4m4 minutes ago we asked Whaley if Jerry Hughes was signed yet. He said hopefully theyre getting it done now. That would be sweet! This confuses me? Hopefully, theyre doing it now? or hopefully theyre going to start working on it? Either way, I Always Billeve.
ganesh Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 Agreed. But given Terry's deep pockets, there's some creative ways to front-load the crap out of contract to reduce the hit on the books. We've never been in these situations before, I'm curious to what lies ahead!!!! If they are going the FA QB route, the QB position will suck up a significant amount of dollars whether it is Cutler or Bradford.
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