BADOLBILZ Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I know a lot of folks are waiting to see what Rex is wearing etc.. but I want to hear what Roman says he is going to do with this offense. I am not real thrilled with this OC hire because I think he is a get-what-you-give-him-only type of coach, but I felt the same way about Schwartz(and still do but he was given premier talent to work with in Buffalo). I was more interested in an up-tempo attack or someone with more than just a ground chuck type of offense. Not impressed at all with how they used Vernon Davis but Roman did run the ball well and they did get to the pinnacle several times in SF. With a heavily invested and talented OL though. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 It will be very telling if Rex wears a visor. Seriously, I will be interested to see if the Bills continue to go down the road of using the "hulking, lurching behemoths" strategy to build an NFL line with as little investment as possible. Like the dittoheads keep saying in the Cowboys games, those OL picks aren't the "sexy" picks on draft day, but they paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 To me the obvious answer is Ryan and THE question of the day, Will EJ be the starter in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 To me the obvious answer is Ryan and THE question of the day, Will EJ be the starter in 2015 Seriously? You want him to pronounce on that when 1) he's not the OC 2) he doesn't know who else will be on the roster on opening day 3) he's never worked with the guy at all? What would it mean to you if he said "yes"? What would it mean to you if he said "no"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 but I felt the same way about Schwartz(and still do but he was given premier talent to work with in Buffalo). How many months does he have to be gone before there is a dig at him in every post? 3? 6? 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioRV Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) -When was the last time an uptempo attack one anything in the NFL or even college? Uptempo attacks hurt your own Defenses. Actually, -What was wrong with how they used Vernon Davis? He was hurt most of the year this year. I love how nobody wants to give Roman credit for the offenses since 2011, but he sucks because the way the Offense looked this year. Vernon Davis had 13 TD's in 2013 I guess he used him poorly then as well. I know a lot of folks are waiting to see what Rex is wearing etc.. but I want to hear what Roman says he is going to do with this offense. I am not real thrilled with this OC hire because I think he is a get-what-you-give-him-only type of coach, but I felt the same way about Schwartz(and still do but he was given premier talent to work with in Buffalo). I was more interested in an up-tempo attack or someone with more than just a ground chuck type of offense. Not impressed at all with how they used Vernon Davis but Roman did run the ball well and they did get to the pinnacle several times in SF. With a heavily invested and talented OL though. . Edited January 14, 2015 by OntarioRV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I don't care what comes out of a press conference because what matters are the results on the field. With that said, Ryan is what he is and I have no concerns with the defensive side of the ball. The most important thing to me was always going to be who he hired as OC. Ryan is a guy that has a reputation for letting his coaches coach - but has not had a good track record with OCs. I like Roman and I don't need a press conference to know what he brings. I just want to see it on the field this upcoming year. I think Ryan and Roman together have the potential to create an identity for this team similar to what we have come to see with the Ravens and Steelers: Tough, physical football on both sides of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'm interested in what we will see come September but I doubt we will hear anything real specific today. What I'm very curious about how much being away from Harbaugh chances his philosophy. He's supposed to be an innovator. Harbaugh is a stubborn bastard although good coach. I don't necessarily think we are going to see SF's offense. Crabtree sucked. Boldin was limited although pretty good. He's going to use Watkins and Woods. At Stanford for two years they ran Gerhart into the ground with the second when Luck as a freshman. The first year without Gerhart they had Luck open it up and passed like crazy. Granted it was Luck, but they did what the players they had did best. I think we will be more like the Steelers. Of course we dont have Big Ben but I expect a power run but still a lot of balls downfield and to the wideouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Roman has to be the more important one. The HC is a known defensive guy who'll bring his guy to "manage" the defense. The OC has more work to do and less talent to do it with. If they're going to be a run first team as some suspect, then they'd better be darn good about it with Manuel. NFL defenses are good at stacking the box to stop the run and forcing bad QB's to make mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I know a lot of folks are waiting to see what Rex is wearing etc.. but I want to hear what Roman says he is going to do with this offense. I am not real thrilled with this OC hire because I think he is a get-what-you-give-him-only type of coach, but I felt the same way about Schwartz(and still do but he was given premier talent to work with in Buffalo). I was more interested in an up-tempo attack or someone with more than just a ground chuck type of offense. Not impressed at all with how they used Vernon Davis but Roman did run the ball well and they did get to the pinnacle several times in SF. With a heavily invested and talented OL though. . Easy. A Suit CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Everyone should listen to the interview on GR with one of the radio guys from SF about Roman. It will be up soon I'm sure. John Lund or something like that. It's very encouraging. He seemed to know his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I was more interested in an up-tempo attack or someone with more than just a ground chuck type of offense. Not impressed at all with how they used Vernon Davis but Roman did run the ball well and they did get to the pinnacle several times in SF. With a heavily invested and talented OL though. . I've never seen Roman operate with a solid passing QB so I don't know if he's able to run an offense that's an up temp passing attack. My hope is that he can do for the Bills what he did for the Niners in the past 4 seasons and if/when the Bills develop/land a QB who is capable of handling the load it evolves into a more aggressive offense. As it is now, an up tempo passing type offense would fall flat on it's face and leave the D out to dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 It will be very telling if Rex wears a visor. Seriously, I will be interested to see if the Bills continue to go down the road of using the "hulking, lurching behemoths" strategy to build an NFL line with as little investment as possible. Like the dittoheads keep saying in the Cowboys games, those OL picks aren't the "sexy" picks on draft day, but they paid off. Sis, I too would like to see us move away from the "hulking lurching behemoths" strategy. I love your phrase: "hulking lurching behemoths" But using 3 draft picks, including a 2nd round pick and a talented guy who fell for character issues, plus a veteran FA, can't quite be seen "as little investment as possible". It may be misguided, either because the talent evaluation was poor, or because they were chosen to fit an OL scheme that was poorly conceived and poorly executed (Did I mention I love your phrase: "hulking lurching behemoths"). But it isn't the crappy "gee we need a L tackle, let's draft Wang in the 5th round and Hairston in the 4th" that we suffered in 2010/2011 or the "no one. and let Levitre and Rinehart walk" we suffered in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'm interested in what we will see come September but I doubt we will hear anything real specific today. What I'm very curious about how much being away from Harbaugh chances his philosophy. He's supposed to be an innovator. Harbaugh is a stubborn bastard although good coach. I don't necessarily think we are going to see SF's offense. Crabtree sucked. Boldin was limited although pretty good. He's going to use Watkins and Woods. At Stanford for two years they ran Gerhart into the ground with the second when Luck as a freshman. The first year without Gerhart they had Luck open it up and passed like crazy. Granted it was Luck, but they did what the players they had did best. I think we will be more like the Steelers. Of course we dont have Big Ben but I expect a power run but still a lot of balls downfield and to the wideouts. They just had a guy on WGR, John Lund from San Fran radio. Now, I'm sure he isn't any expert but I thought what he said was very interesting. He said that Roman is very much an innovator but was limited by talent in San Fran. He does lots of different formations and sets. Said that the QB was really holding them back because Kap can't read the field and was missing open people. So he tailored the offense to be a run first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Has it been confirmed that Roman will be physically at this PC today and speaking? Or does he get his own PC another time? Don't expect any revelations today of any kind, especially regarding who the starting QB is going to be. I do think (pray) someone will ask about the QB situation. Ryan would never have come here without some sort of sales pitch involving a plan for QB beyond EJ. I hope someone states this and then asks: "What was the sales pitch? What is the plan?" I won't expect a specific answer with names, but they might reveal some information, like we are going to pursue the trade market, the FA market, the draft, all of the above, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 They just had a guy on WGR, John Lund from San Fran radio. Now, I'm sure he isn't any expert but I thought what he said was very interesting. He said that Roman is very much an innovator but was limited by talent in San Fran. He does lots of different formations and sets. Said that the QB was really holding them back because Kap can't read the field and was missing open people. So he tailored the offense to be a run first. I wrote that and then heard the Lund thing and posted above that everyone should listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I don't care what comes out of a press conference because what matters are the results on the field. With that said, Ryan is what he is and I have no concerns with the defensive side of the ball. The most important thing to me was always going to be who he hired as OC. Ryan is a guy that has a reputation for letting his coaches coach - but has not had a good track record with OCs. I like Roman and I don't need a press conference to know what he brings. I just want to see it on the field this upcoming year. I think Ryan and Roman together have the potential to create an identity for this team similar to what we have come to see with the Ravens and Steelers: Tough, physical football on both sides of the ball. This. I do want to see that Rex has learned from his mistakes and pays some attention to the O side of the ball, at least as far as game day management. But that won't come out in a press conference. Those are just entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I wrote that and then heard the Lund thing and posted above that everyone should listen to it. Good interview, not sure the guy is any sort of expert, but he has watched more games than most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 They just had a guy on WGR, John Lund from San Fran radio. Now, I'm sure he isn't any expert but I thought what he said was very interesting. He said that Roman is very much an innovator but was limited by talent in San Fran. He does lots of different formations and sets. Said that the QB was really holding them back because Kap can't read the field and was missing open people. So he tailored the offense to be a run first. Haven't heard his segment yet but am looking forward to it. If Kap was holding Roman back, what does he think he's going to accomplish in Buffalo? My lord we need a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Do people seriously expect the 2015 game plan to be laid out in detail today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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