TPS Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 The Bills' O-line really regressed this year across the board, and their higher drafted rookies contributed almost nothing. However, when looking at their draft profiles, it seems that Kuoandjio and Richardson have exactly the type of talent that a Ryan/Roman offense is looking for--road graders. Here's the over view for Kuoandjio from NFL.com: BOTTOM LINE Massive, long-limbed, inconsistent, overhyped college left tackle whose sheer dimensions, raw tools and high ceiling are far more appealing than his snap-to-snap performance at this stage of his development. Has enough length and anchor strength to survive on the left side, though he will never be a dancing bear, and he projects more ideally as a bulldozing right tackle in a power scheme. Richardson is described similarly: BOTTOM LINE Massive road grader with enough mass to re-establish the line of scrimmage in the run game. Versatility to play right tackle adds to value, and he has the physical tools to compete readily in a man-blocking scheme if the game is kept simple. Has a bust factor. A couple of boom-bust possibilities with these two, but one is described as a "bulldozing right tackle" and the other as a "massive road grader." I'm not saying they shouldn't bring in more talent, but maybe with some good coaching the Bills already have the talent they need on the roster?? Henderson, Glenn, Wood, Richardson, Kuoandjio????
fairweather fan Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Sure, bring in a defensive coach to replace a very good defensive coach, to a team without a quarterback, an offensive line, and a head coach who had proven his offensive philosopy. It reminds me or the great day of the Tennesee Miracle, when the coach in charge of the special teams, who had the best special teams in the NFL for the previous two years, was fired immediately after that play, while the coaches who did not use Flutie, watched their quarterback sacked five times, allowing the game to be close enough to be lost to a forward pass called a lateral, went back to the best early retirement gig since civil service. Bring in Manning, he is his own offensive coordinator, I am sure with Ryan on the sidelines, those short passes will allow Buddy to gain weight again, because he will not be moving very far up and down the sideline.
r00tabaga Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 LT- Henderson LG- Glenn C- Wood RG- Richardson RT- Kuoandjio Sign Iupati & things get much better
NoSaint Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I think the same group could show up acceptably with better coaching and respectable with better coaching and a solid well placed vet addition
dave mcbride Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 I'm pretty sure the Bills' o-line talent is below average.
norton20 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) I don't think so. To me Richardson cannot move at all. Can't run screens with him, can't pull him and he is so stiff and slow he gets beaten in pass protection. As for Cy Ko, I see no hope for him as a tackle. He just did not seem able to play in space at all. I was shocked at what a turnstile he was during preseason for a 2nd round pick. I have no idea about him as a guard as I didn't see him there. I am sure they will both be in camp but it would be beyond risky to count on either of them to be starters.I would love to see them go back to more mobile guards. It just opens up so many more options offensively. I watched John Urschel of Canisius High School and Penn St with the Ravens and was really really impressed. He was a 5th rounder and can move yet is strong enough to anchor too. I think he was too small for St. Doug. St. Doug loved him some big stiffs on the interior and it cost him a playoff spot. I just hope they can recover this year. Edited January 14, 2015 by norton20
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 The Bills' O-line really regressed this year across the board, and their higher drafted rookies contributed almost nothing. However, when looking at their draft profiles, it seems that Kuoandjio and Richardson have exactly the type of talent that a Ryan/Roman offense is looking for--road graders. Here's the over view for Kuoandjio from NFL.com:BOTTOM LINE Massive, long-limbed, inconsistent, overhyped college left tackle whose sheer dimensions, raw tools and high ceiling are far more appealing than his snap-to-snap performance at this stage of his development. Has enough length and anchor strength to survive on the left side, though he will never be a dancing bear, and he projects more ideally as a bulldozing right tackle in a power scheme. Richardson is described similarly: BOTTOM LINE Massive road grader with enough mass to re-establish the line of scrimmage in the run game. Versatility to play right tackle adds to value, and he has the physical tools to compete readily in a man-blocking scheme if the game is kept simple. Has a bust factor. A couple of boom-bust possibilities with these two, but one is described as a "bulldozing right tackle" and the other as a "massive road grader." I'm not saying they shouldn't bring in more talent, but maybe with some good coaching the Bills already have the talent they need on the roster?? Henderson, Glenn, Wood, Richardson, Kuoandjio???? hopefully but doubt that is the final Oline
r00tabaga Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 HoFamer JoeD said Cy Ko doesn't bend. Doesn't think he is an NFL caliber talent. Hopefully he made strides but I listen to JoeD. Btw, he loved what he saw from Sean Hen early on. Starting LT calibur.
Beef Jerky Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Supposedly Willie Colon could come here. Jets guard...
Rob's House Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 The O-line talent might be a lot better than people think. We we're all convinced Wood and Glenn were solid, now they mysteriously start to suck? I don't think so. The coaching wasn't working or the system didn't fit, but we KNOW those guys have talent. And Urbik & Pears were never world beaters, but they were serviceable pros. Plus, we brought in some talented prospects in Henderson, Richardson, & Kouandjio. 2 of the 3 were widely projected as first rounders this time last year and the other (Henderson) was never short on raw talent. Everyone talks about developing QBs, but OL have about the steepest learning curve out there. Now they've got a year under their belts, are likely to get better coaching, and they just might surprise some people.
BaaadThingsMan Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 LT Henderson LG Glenn C Wood/FA or draftee RG Urbik/Richardson/FA or draftee RT Koundijo Coach em up right and they'll be ok
Max997 Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Did you watch Richardson when he was starting at LG? He was brutal and didn't look anything like a road grader to me Since Kuoandjio never saw the field we have no idea how he progressed during the season but the fact that he couldn't even get active on game day doesn't say a lot for the second round pick. I'm really hoping Kuoandjio can contend for one of the guard spots next year but at this point this team can't coubt on either one of these guys and will need to add at least 2 maybe 3 guards this offseason.
Big Blitz Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) My offseason starting with the oline: Glenn--Lupati--Wood--Urbik--Henderson See if Richardson Chris Williams or KuJo can push Urbik. Who would start by default. I'm drafting BPA at 50---hopefully a QB slips. Then drafting oline DB oline RB rest of draft. Hughes I'm letting go as I just don't think we can afford him. Hope we do...just don't see it. Too many guys have priority over him IMO. All RBs will be back. Spiller will not see big money. I'm looking to sign Hoyer...there just aren't any trades to be made for a Kap or Cutler or Foles or Bradford. We gotta hit in the draft. Or Roman works magic with EJ (who expect will start opening day). But Glennon and MAYBE RGIII could be available if the Redskins draft Winston---which is being discussed down here and the Bucs go Mariotta. Edited January 14, 2015 by Big Blitz
jahnyc Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 No, the current players on the o-line cannot be instantly upgraded through coaching alone. The o-line needs a significant infusion of talent. The jury is out on CK, Richardson and Henderson. Not sure if two of the three will be in the league after a few years.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 My early prediction is that Kuandjo doesn't make it out of training camp next year. They just totally whiffed on him.
John from Riverside Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Is this a serious question? We SERIOUSLY need upgrades at the OG positions
NickelCity Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 We need two starting guards in free agency, and a center/guard in the draft. See if Hairston can still be swing tackle.
hondo in seattle Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 Unfortunately, I behave like the casual fan and tend to watch the ball. But when I did watch the OL, I saw both missed assignments and blockers lose 1-on-1 battles. I'm tempted to blame the blown assignments on poor coaching. But when you see a determined OG get shoved aside by a stronger/better DT, that's just lack of talent. But we had 3 rookies on our roster last year. It will be interesting to see if any of them get better - particularly with better coaching. Better designed blocking schemes might make our OL look better as well.
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