HOUSE Posted January 13, 2015 Author Posted January 13, 2015 Stupid picture. It isn't even related to the "story." You should have seen the orginal prints for Rich Stadium....really bad
Chandemonium Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 How can anyone be anti dome? Because football is supposed to be an outdoor sport.
dpberr Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 That stadium design is not inspiring. As someone else said...it is a rather generic ripoff of RWS.
Mr. WEO Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Nope, I have been reading this for about a year now, seems pretty straight forward http://globalflare.com/ LOL--yeah, like this one too: Japan Releases Plans for World’s First Underwater City The bogusness of this story lies in its twin claims that the Pegulas will seek signficant public money and it will be underway by 2017. Both can't be true. Anyway, what would be Pegula's lease penalty liability if he was to build a stadium in the next year of so? Edited January 13, 2015 by Mr. WEO
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Global Flair is also currently reporting that there is a 75% chance that the Republicans might take back the Senate in the 2014 elections. ...stay tuned.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I would love, love love for Buffalo to get an MLB team. Would require a multi-purpose retractable facility IMO. Also highly doubtful as long as the MLB caters to the big markets and the MLBPA. But man, talk about getting a ton of people downtown 80+ nights a Summer? As far as the Bills stadium, I would be fine if they just took Seattle's taco/burrito design and transplanted it here. Would be comfortable enough from the elements, yet outdoors. I really do not know what events an enclosed stadium would attract that an outdoor stadium will not. Best case is Pegula and Jacobs privately fund an outdoor stadium, ask the public for infastructure downtown, and with that, the public along with maybe a private developer builds a really nice convention center. Terry only has so much money to buy teams.
bigK14094 Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 9 more seasons at the Ralph they have a lease with the county.....so, all this is just dreaming. I am against a new stadium downtown....for a multitude of reasons.
Mister Defense Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Yes! It looks great. A real football stadium--no dome! Anyone who loves real football, and has spent any time in a giant living room like the Carrier Dome, knows that they would no longer be the same football team with a roof over the stadium. Hope this becomes a reality. Let it snow, let it blow, it's Buffalo.
HOUSE Posted January 13, 2015 Author Posted January 13, 2015 9 more seasons at the Ralph they have a lease with the county.....so, all this is just dreaming. I am against a new stadium downtown....for a multitude of reasons. The guy with Billions can do what ever he wants...trust me
OhDozeBills Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Wow, really hope this isn't what they're planning, it looks terrible. Notice how the seats (especially end zone) go out and not up. Not good for crowd noise and you're super far away from the field. I think the stadium should definitely have a retractable roof.
HOUSE Posted January 13, 2015 Author Posted January 13, 2015 Wow, really hope this isn't what they're planning, it looks terrible. Notice how the seats (especially end zone) go out and not up. Not good for crowd noise and you're super far away from the field. I think the stadium should definitely have a retractable roof. I don't think the picture will even be close...its just a concept image
reddogblitz Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 How can anyone be anti dome? Just curious. Have you ever been to an NFL game in a dome?
BillnutinHouston Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) This "article" seems to be 180 degrees out from credible. Poorly written, pathetically vague and completely unsourced (except for the Jacobs quote which actually has nothing to do with the "news" he's breaking that the stadium may be coming soon). I love this: "Those closes (sic) with the current stadium executives think the decisions for the new stadium will be finalized within the next couple months, and that the new stadium may be built as early as the 2017 season." 1) I guess the author doesn't know that "the current stadium executives" means Poloncarz, because the County owns the stadium. 2) Both Poloncarz and Cuomo are on record as questioning the need for a new stadium. Yet according to Scott "scoop" Jensen they know this is happening and have remained quiet about it until this guy breaks the story. Embarrassing to UNC that the guy claims to be an alumnus. Edited January 13, 2015 by BillnutinHouston
Bubba Gump Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Because football is supposed to be an outdoor sport.Agree 1000%. Domes are for pansies. Look at all the relatively new open air stadiums in crappy weather cities. Philly, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, New England, NYC, Seattle (lots of rain), Cincinnati, Denver. I still remember the shot of Kelly on the sidelines going nuts when that brutal lake snow squall blew in during the commercial break in one of the games when Flutie was still QB. Edited January 13, 2015 by Not Again
Kirby Jackson Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) This anti roof (no one builds domes anymore) sentiment is weird. I attend games in the Superdome all of the time and there is plenty of atmosphere. I also went to Houston this year and thought that place was great. I don't know what the attraction is of sitting outside in 35 degree temperatures when it is raining? Good luck attracting the wealthier clientele in that atmosphere. I cannot see a scenario where there isn't a roof. Edited January 13, 2015 by Kirby Jackson
bbb Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Agree 1000%. Domes are for pansies. Look at all the relatively new open air stadiums in crappy weather cities. Philly, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, New England, NYC, Seattle (lots of rain), Cincinnati, Denver. I still remember the shot of Kelly on the sidelines going nuts when that brutal lake snow squall blew in during the commercial break in one of the games when Flutie was still QB. Exactly. I was at that game. I think 2002, after Flutie. But, it was one of the most fun games in the last 20 years. And, it was hilarious with Jimbo going crazy on the sidelines, and then the snow coming in during the commercial when the Dolphins now got the ball!
Peter Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 This anti roof (no one builds domes anymore) sentiment is weird. I attend games in the Superdome all of the time and there is plenty of atmosphere. I also went to Houston this year and thought that place was great. I don't know what the attraction is of sitting outside in 35 degree temperatures when it is raining? Good luck attracting the wealthier clientele in that atmosphere. I cannot see a scenario where there isn't a roof. Agreed. If there was any doubt about the next stadium being a dome or retractable roof before the snow storm before the Jets game, there is no doubt any longer.
bbb Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Agreed. If there was any doubt about the next stadium being a dome or retractable roof before the snow storm before the Jets game, there is no doubt any longer. Why? There's no way that game would have been played here anyway? Do you live in the Southtowns?
Peter Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) Why? There's no way that game would have been played here anyway? Do you live in the Southtowns? Why?!? Because it showed that there is no point in spending the $$$ if the team and fans etc. are at the whim of the weather and have to worry about whether a game (or other event) is going to go forward EVEN IF the roads are cleared. [i realize that it took time to clear the roads, but there was a question about the following game against Cleveland even when they had made progress with the roads - it seems odd that we would be dependent on how many snow shovelers would show up to shovel a huge stadium]. I have been going to that stadium since 1972. I have season tickets and have kept them even though I live in Miami. I have been to games where the conditions were miserable even almost getting frostbite on my feet at a Jets game back in the 1980's. I have no problem going to games when it is cold -- up to a point. I find very little romance, however, in going to a game when the rain is horizontal etc. I have no problem with a retractable roof that would close when the conditions are miserable. It just does not make sense to spend the $$$ on a new stadium if you cannot use it more than a handful of times or people will not go because they would rather watch the game in their family room. The big screen TV and family room are the real competitors for home football attendance. That is just a fact. We can choose to be romantic and all say wouldn't it be great to sit through the ice bowl even though we have had hard times selling out games in December -- even when the team was very, very good. Hell, the comeback playoff game against the Oilers was not even a sellout as I recall. The fact remains that it makes perfect sense to have a dome/retractable roof downtown not only for football games, but so that it can be used more than 8 or 10 games a year. Edited January 13, 2015 by Peter
Bubba Gump Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) The fact remains that it makes perfect sense to have a dome/retractable roof downtown not only for football games, but so that it can be used more than 8 or 10 games a year. I'm just curious as to what all these other events would be held at an indoor stadium that can't be held at the First Niagara Center? And if they do have other events they want to host there, it doesn't snow in the summer. I also never hear about other bad weather cities complaining that their football stadiums are useless because they are only used a few times a year. Edited January 13, 2015 by Not Again
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