Coach55 Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 This is a little out there and would require some work from Whaley, but would you make this move? 1. Trade Dareus to Tampa or Tennessee for pick 1 or 2. (Dareus is a former #3 pick who is proven himself recently) 2. Take Mariota or Winston pending what pick you get. 3. Pick up "Donkey Kong" Suh through Free Agency to replace Dareus. The above may not be able to happen as both Tampa and Tennessee are in dire need for a QB. However, Oakland may deal their 3rd pick if one of the 2 above slip for some reason.
gordong Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 no, I don't believe that either are a franchise QB, and Suh is most likely going to get tagged
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 I stopped reading after Trade Dareus. No way we get rid of anybody on that DL.
Max997 Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) As good as Dareus is and he is the most important player on this defense he doesnt come close to getting the first or second pick I wish people would ask themselves before proposing these fantasy trades if they were the other team would they make the trade they are suggesting because Im betting most if not all of the time the answer is No. Edited January 12, 2015 by Max997
BillsFanM.D. Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 I'll give you credit for an interesting thought...but no thanks. Like the above poster, 'trading Dareus' (proven all pro in his mid 20's) is not an option for me unless you get a legit top 10 NFL qb back....and that trade isn't going to happen from anyone's perspective.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) is this even worth commenting on??. Again .... Rex was given his marching orders to teach EJ and play him. Get used to that, Edited January 12, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever
thewildrabbit Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 The man is ranked about the best DT in the league, and one of the defenses best players. The defense is a different animal when he is not in there. So no to this trade.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 The problem isnt trading Dareus, the problem is that he wouldnt come close to getting the number one. I think its a no brainer to say the Bills are a better team with Suh and Winston or Marriotta than they are with Dareus and no QB.
Max Fischer Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 This is a little out there and would require some work from Whaley, but would you make this move?1. Trade Dareus to Tampa or Tennessee for pick 1 or 2. (Dareus is a former #3 pick who is proven himself recently)2. Take Mariota or Winston pending what pick you get.3. Pick up "Donkey Kong" Suh through Free Agency to replace Dareus.The above may not be able to happen as both Tampa and Tennessee are in dire need for a QB. However, Oakland may deal their 3rd pick if one of the 2 above slip for some reason. Why would TB or Ten do this? The fallacy of the willing trade partner.
Gugny Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Neither Mariota, nor Winston, will ever be successful NFL QBs, in my opinion.
BarleyNY Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 no, I don't believe that either are a franchise QB, and Suh is most likely going to get tagged There's no way the Lions can tag Suh. He'd have a $26.7M tag. Notably Detroit will already have $9.7M in dead money to account for in 2015. That's a $36.4M cap hit total if Detroit were to franchise him. Incidentally they are at $120.4M now, including Suh's dead money so they'd have to make space to do that and even more space for draft picks and other FAs/RFAs. Conclusion: He's definitely gone from Detroit. Rumor has it that Suh is letting his agent handle the contract, which means he's looking for maximum value with little/no regard for which team he goes to. Money will be talking big time so look for a deal that eclipses JJ Watts' contract.
Maury Ballstein Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Huge no. Watch the Raiders game to see the defense minus Marcell D.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 As good as Dareus is and he is the most important player on this defense he doesnt come close to getting the first or second pick I wish people would ask themselves before proposing these fantasy trades if they were the other team would they make the trade they are suggesting because Im betting most if not all of the time the answer is No. This. "Hi, I know you need a QB and with the pick you have you could acquire one. But how about if you trade it to us for this great DL we have signed for $8 million through 1 more year?" Can you imagine the tar and pitchforks if our GM did a similar trade?
Chuck Wagon Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Both of Tampa (McCoy) and Tennessee's (Casey) best players are DTs......
NandosNickles Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 I couldn't imagine a GM giving up a chance to get a franchise quarterback. Quarterback is the most important position in sports. If I was the Bills I would trade anything to get a franchise quarterback.
BillsFanThru-N-Thru Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Not only do both teams have an excellent DT, why in the hell would they just sign Suh themselves??
PromoTheRobot Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Trade one of our best players for magic beans? Sign me up.
ddaryl Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Winston is a headcase that will become a lightning rod for trouble once the money starts flowing Trading a known ALL-PRO commodity for a draft pick is not wise.
RCOHEN13 Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 This is a little out there and would require some work from Whaley, but would you make this move? 1. Trade Dareus to Tampa or Tennessee for pick 1 or 2. (Dareus is a former #3 pick who is proven himself recently) 2. Take Mariota or Winston pending what pick you get. 3. Pick up "Donkey Kong" Suh through Free Agency to replace Dareus. The above may not be able to happen as both Tampa and Tennessee are in dire need for a QB. However, Oakland may deal their 3rd pick if one of the 2 above slip for some reason. Biggest issue with this is that our D is built to win NOW.... I have loved Marriota since his first snaps at Oregon but neither him or Winston are ready to lead a playoff charge. We need a vet QB. Even more so with Rex in the fold. He's got a better D than he ever had in NY. If he brings in Roman to be OC, i hope his ties to Iupati may help us recruit him. If we sign a FA like Iupati, and let the our other young guys battle for the other guard spot and hopefully draft another. Our OL would be much improved. Then, we swing a deal for a QB like Cutler, draft a mid round RB to fill void if Spiller leaves. (nowadays its easy to find mid round RB that can produce big) and we have at least a middle of the pack O, to go along with a D that is top 5 (possibly even BETTER!).
thebandit27 Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 Yes I would do it, and no it would never happen. At the risk of a thread-jack, here's (IMO) a more interesting far-fetched QB trade scenario: would you offer your next 10 first round picks for Andrew Luck? Would Indianapolis take it?
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