The Dean Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Pegulas got their first choice. They threw some money around, which we thought they would. They wanted to make a splash and we are instantly relevant again. Obviously the idea that Whaley was pushing or shoving EJ on candidates didn't scare off the top coaching candidate in the league. There is a lot to like about this hire and a lot to wonder if not worry about. But there is not a sure fire hire out there, and never is. As I said in my text to you, this has Pegula written all over it. I can't even fathom it was Whaley's top pick. I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like this is Black Sunday. A proven failure HC, who is a blowhard to boot. Worst HC in the NFL last year---hands down. Of course I'm worried about what it will do to the D, but I'll fell better if Schwartz stays. A move to the 3-4 would be ridiculous at this stage. If Trestman comes (not my first choice, but OK) and brings Cutler, I'll explode. A crappy loudmouth HC and a QB who couldn't lead a girl scout troop. Beautiful! I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a very bad feeling about the Bills immediate future.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Kubiak can't coach? He went to the playoffs two years in a row and won twice with Schaub as his QB! Rex won four times and to AFC Championship with Mark Sanchez.
Tyrod's Tailor Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 As I said in my text to you, this has Pegula written all over it. I can't even fathom it was Whaley's top pick. I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like this is Black Sunday. A proven failure HC, who is a blowhard to boot. Worst HC in the NFL last year---hands down. Of course I'm worried about what it will do to the D, but I'll fell better if Schwartz stays. A move to the 3-4 would be ridiculous at this stage. If Trestman comes (not my first choice, but OK) and brings Cutler, I'll explode. A crappy loudmouth HC and a QB who couldn't lead a girl scout troop. Beautiful! I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a very bad feeling about the Bills immediate future. I really think the GM job that John Idzik did last season might have been the single worst in NFL history. 12 terrible draft picks, huge amounts of unspent $ under the cap, and a completely depleted roster. That team played hard for Rex until the very end (delightfully costing the Jets a top draft pick in the process).
Bob in STL Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Some of you people amaze me. You want an experienced HC, well we got one. Ryan had success until his dopey GM depleted the team. If he brings in Roman, or Kubiak, or Trestmann then we are light years years beyond Marrone and his kids from Syracuse. Two things that are blown out of proportion: 1. Offensive minded vs. Defensive minded. Every head coach starts somewhere. Do you think Bellichek is a defensive coach still? 2. Developed a QB - very few star qbs are developed by one coach. This idea is a myth. Getting an elite QB is more luck than any coach will admit. Look at the 11 other candidates we interviewed. Take away Shanahan Sr and you have no other NFL HC experience except Swartz. Swartz can hopefully stay and run his D. If not defensive talent is the least of our problems. I think Ryan deserves a chance. His work with the jets was overall pretty good. Also, kudos to the Pegula's for getting out there. 12 interviews!!!!! Contrast to Ralph and his coaching/ GM searches. We should be happy.
Beef Jerky Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Hopefully Rex will be the Man.......but I am finding it difficult to get past my feelings that a top Offensive minded HC could have given us a chance at the SB within 3 years. Go Bills! No top offensive HC is unemployed... So you would have never of gotten one. Edited January 11, 2015 by Beef Jerky
flmike Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Great hire for the following reasons -Has had great success against NE and Brady -Players love playing for him (can attract free agents) -Shows front office is not the same with hiring a brand name coach/enough with the no name BS coaches they have hired in the past. -4 and 2 in the playoffs including beating NE in NE (other then the tainted win this year when have we even won in NE against Brady) -Made the playoffs with average QB -Will have a great defense with or without our currect DC -Great leader -Shows national media that big names will come to Buffalo Have to balance this with - Coached only team the Bills handled easily twice this year - Teams regressed in years after he took over - Possible defensive conflicts if we keep Schwartz - Big personalities usually create big problems Willing to wait and see, though.
DisplacedBillsFan Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Wait... Are you from the FUTURE??? Yea. A future where Rex does really good again for two years after inheriting a stacked team (defensively at least), and then finishes out the last three years of his contract with losing records.
MattM Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Could be this offseason. That would be a waste of FA money better spent elsewhere where we have real holes. For ex, if Roman can bring Iupati, I'm all for it.
Tyrod's Tailor Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 That would be a waste of FA money better spent elsewhere where we have real holes. For ex, if Roman can bring Iupati, I'm all for it. I don't necessarily disagree, was just answering the question. Iupati would make a lot of sense.
MattM Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Have to balance this with - Coached only team the Bills handled easily twice this year - Teams regressed in years after he took over - Possible defensive conflicts if we keep Schwartz - Big personalities usually create big problems Willing to wait and see, though. You honestly don't think Idzik's idjit GM job had nothing to do with that?
DC Greg Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 As I said in my text to you, this has Pegula written all over it. I can't even fathom it was Whaley's top pick. I hope I'm wrong, but I feel like this is Black Sunday. A proven failure HC, who is a blowhard to boot. Worst HC in the NFL last year---hands down. Of course I'm worried about what it will do to the D, but I'll fell better if Schwartz stays. A move to the 3-4 would be ridiculous at this stage. If Trestman comes (not my first choice, but OK) and brings Cutler, I'll explode. A crappy loudmouth HC and a QB who couldn't lead a girl scout troop. Beautiful! I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a very bad feeling about the Bills immediate future. I was worried sick that the move from the 3-4 under Pettine to a 4-3 (nightmares of wanny) would be a disaster. What i learned is that our D is really good because of the players on it, and NFL coaches often know a hell of a lot more than i do. I'll sit back and watch the show next September.
The Dean Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 I really think the GM job that John Idzik did last season might have been the single worst in NFL history. 12 terrible draft picks, huge amounts of unspent $ under the cap, and a completely depleted roster. That team played hard for Rex until the very end (delightfully costing the Jets a top draft pick in the process). With the exception of a couple games at the end of the year, the Jet's laid down like DOGS this year. Yes, the GM sucked, but so did Rex. Nobody ever makes excuses for Bill coaches the way I hear people make excuses for Rex. The had WAY more talent than their record.
Drifter Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 No one knows if this hire will work, but for the first time the Bills targeted a top name coach and landed him. That fact alone should make us all happy. The days of settling and hoping for the best are over.
Tyrod's Tailor Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Yea. A future where Rex does really good again for two years after inheriting a stacked team (defensively at least), and then finishes out the last three years of his contract with losing records. We haven't "done really good for two years" in about 17 years.
Mr. WEO Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Rex won four times and to AFC Championship with Mark Sanchez. A lifetime ago. Look, I like Rex, he seems like a good guy. MAybe it will work out better than he did with the Jests over the past few years. But if you are going to jump in and hire a guy early, you do it because you think he's far and away the best guy out there and you think you might lose him. No one else was making a move yet. I agreew ith Dean: it's hard to imagine this was Whaley's choice.
Ted William's frozen head Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 So when do we sign Sanchez?Don't be surprised.....
Coach Tuesday Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Have to balance this with - Coached only team the Bills handled easily twice this year - Teams regressed in years after he took over - Possible defensive conflicts if we keep Schwartz - Big personalities usually create big problems Willing to wait and see, though. His defense requires cornerbacks. His GM refused to get him any. He was not given final say over his QBs on gameday. Rex was set up to fail, now he gets a chance to coach with full support from his organization.
bladiebla Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Better promote Schwartz to assistant HC and pray that those two will gell.
thewildrabbit Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Well, I'm still hoping the Pegula's make a Bill Polian like hire to run the football side, and he fixes the offensive scouting dept. The only way this will all work out is if the Bills offensive scouts remove their heads from their backsides over the O line acquisitions.
Fadingpain Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 I am very confident that at least one thing will be true with this hire: it will make all the Marrone supporters forget about that waste of space very, very quickly. Regardless of Ryan's real or perceived weaknesses, and regardless of whether or not he was the right man for the job, he is an upgrade and improvement over Doug Marrone. Bank on that one!
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