John Adams Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 it's only after his Christian faith became an issue that I've noticed some people starting to dislike him. 233823[/snapback] Don't passive voice that. It's only after Warner made his faith an issue that people started to dislike him. His in your face football-JC combination is obnoxious. That's why I dislike him. Do you think he was benched because of his JC theatrics? Never mind... I know... "Ask a Sports psychologist PhD." You have now reached a point in this thread where you have ignored over 90% of the points made by other people refuting your arguments. The best you can hope for is that a moderator will lock this out so you can't continue to embarrass yourself (in this thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 ...What you really mean is that no current scientific theory can explain the passage of time at the exact instant the Big Bang took place. If Shroeder didn't have a degree you'd accuse him of not knowing anything. Given that he has a PhD in physics from MIT, you accuse him of . . . not knowing anything, and you accuse me of being in love with degrees. There is no pleasing you, because you have concluded in advance that Shroeder's theories are wrong. 233810[/snapback] I agree that no current scientific theory can explain the exact instant the Big Bang took place. And further point out that Schroeder has contributed nothing to any scientific theory about what happened for the 6 24 hour periods following the Big Bang. He's a fool because he claims to have contributed something to the science... or at least you believe he has... and either way, he hasn't. If you want to call whatever started the Big Bang "God," that's fine with me. You are in a land of confusion trying to work Genesis into the Big Bang theory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel77 Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Don't passive voice that. It's only after Warner made his faith an issue that people started to dislike him. His in your face football-JC combination is obnoxious. That's why I dislike him. Do you think he was benched because of his JC theatrics? Never mind... I know... "Ask a Sports psychologist PhD." You have now reached a point in this thread where you have ignored over 90% of the points made by other people refuting your arguments. The best you can hope for is that a moderator will lock this out so you can't continue to embarrass yourself (in this thread). 233862[/snapback] I'm sorry, but I don't consider an accusation like "you are stupid" or "you don't understand Shroeder's theories" to be a stunning refutation of any point I've made. If I've failed to address an issue where someone was actually making a valid, supported point, let me know, and I'll deal with it. As for Warner, at least you're admitting that your dislike for the man has to do with his faith. Personally, I like the idea of rooting for a guy who was a complete underdog. A guy who's spent time bagging groceries probably appreciates his NFL opportunity a little more than a pampered first round pick like Ryan Leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 I'm sorry, but I don't consider an accusation like "you are stupid" or "you don't understand Shroeder's theories" to be a stunning refutation of any point I've made. If I've failed to address an issue where someone was actually making a valid, supported point, let me know, and I'll deal with it. As for Warner, at least you're admitting that your dislike for the man has to do with his faith. Personally, I like the idea of rooting for a guy who was a complete underdog. A guy who's spent time bagging groceries probably appreciates his NFL opportunity a little more than a pampered first round pick like Ryan Leaf. 233884[/snapback] Go review this thread and Tom's and my specific arguments with Schroeder. The insults precede and follow the arguments. Think of it like a scientific sandwich. One that you can't swallow. I have nothing against Warner as a QB. (Time to move this to the football board Ken.) Coughlin was a moron to put Manning in this year- Warner was perfectly adequate, and certainly better than Manning. As far as coming to the Bills, if Losman is ready, I'd rather have him start and Bledsoe be the backup. Warner would be a short term band-aid for the QB position. I'd want a longer term solution. If Losman is not yet ready, and Bledsoe is out of Buffalo, Warner would not be my first choice, but he'd be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 If I've failed to address an issue where someone was actually making a valid, supported point, let me know, and I'll deal with it. 233884[/snapback] Have you not been paying attention in this thread? There has been a boatload of information directly refuting you...errr...Schroeder's points. Re-read the thread and then address the points. Otherwise, you look like you are purposely avoiding anything that contradicts your POV which makes you look foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel77 Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Go review this thread and Tom's and my specific arguments with Schroeder. I believe I've already addressed those arguments. Again, if I've missed any, let me know. The insults precede and follow the arguments. Think of it like a scientific sandwich. One that you can't swallow. Your arguments are indeed hard to swallow. I have nothing against Warner as a QB. (Time to move this to the football board Ken.) Coughlin was a moron to put Manning in this year- Warner was perfectly adequate, and certainly better than Manning. As far as coming to the Bills, if Losman is ready, I'd rather have him start and Bledsoe be the backup. Warner would be a short term band-aid for the QB position. I'd want a longer term solution. If Losman is not yet ready, and Bledsoe is out of Buffalo, Warner would not be my first choice, but he'd be OK. 233901[/snapback] The Warner section sounds rational enough. I'm not sure that Losman is ready, because there's a difference between studying film and actually throwing the ball in practice. With that broken leg, he might need more practice time before he's ready. But the coaches are obviously in a better position to evaluate his progress than I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Is this what you guys would call having a topic 'jump the shark'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Is this what you guys would call having a topic 'jump the shark'? 233959[/snapback] And how. The funniest part is Kurt continuing to step on his dick and not realizing the moving his own foot would make the pain stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel77 Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 And how. The funniest part is Kurt continuing to step on his dick and not realizing the moving his own foot would make the pain stop. 233986[/snapback] If you were a woman, this interest you've taken in . . . my body parts would be a little easier to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Nice. Going from politics to football will get a thread kicked back to the Wall. Funny as hell. Beautiful, as Rapid would say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel77 Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Nice. Going from politics to football will get a thread kicked back to the Wall. Funny as hell. Beautiful, as Rapid would say 234017[/snapback] Come to think of it, this is a pretty funny thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I just heard back from Schroeder. He never taught at MIT. He was on the staff, but never a professor. He earned his BS, MS and PhD at MIT. Here is the bio he sent to me: Gerald Schroeder is a scientist with over thirty years of experience in research and teaching. He earned his Bachelor’s, Master’s, and Doctorate degrees all at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. This was followed by seven years on the staff of the MIT physics department prior to moving to Israel, where he joined the Weizmann Institute of Science and then the Volcani Research Institute, while also having a laboratory at The Hebrew University. His Doctorate is in two fields: Earth sciences and nuclear physics. His formal theological training includes fifteen years of study under the late Rabbi Herman Pollack, Rabbi Chaim Brovender and Rabbi Noah Weinberg. The scientific career that Schroeder chose has given him varied and often unusual experiences. In his work with nuclear disarmament, he has been present at the detonation of six atomic bombs. Work in control of radioactivity has put him hundreds of meters below ground in U.S. and foreign uranium mines. The government of the People’s Republic of China, during the decade before it established direct contacts with Israel, was willing to overlook his Jerusalem address and had him as a frequent advisor. He also consults for agencies of the governments of Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, Canada, USA. Invitations for him to lecture have come from around the world. He has over 60 publications in the world’s leading scientific journals on topics ranging from the radon atmosphere of the moon (in Science) to the metabolism of mother’s milk (in Nutrition Reports International). The results of Schroeder’s work have been reported in Time, Newsweek, Scientific American and in newspapers as far apart as Boston and Adelaide. His formal training in chemistry, nuclear physics and the Earth and planetary sciences provides the basis for the broad scientific perspective he brings to his books and lectures. For the past twenty years, Dr. Schroeder has also pursued a study of ancient biblical interpretation. An ability to handle the biblical material in the original languages integrated with his background in the sciences allows him to tap the subtle depths contained in the original texts. These nuances are missed when working with translations. The uniqueness and success of Schroeder’s approach is demonstrated by the success of his first book, GENESIS AND THE BIG BANG (published by Bantam Doubleday and now in seven languages), and the wide acclaim for his second book THE SCIENCE OF GOD (published by The Free Press of Simon & Schuster and Broadway Books of Bantam Doubleday) which was on the Barnes & Noble list of non-fiction best sellers and was Amazon.com’s best selling book in the field of physics/cosmology for all of 1998; now in five languages. His most recent book is THE HIDDEN FACE OF GOD, discovering the unity that binds all existence (published by The Free Press of Simon & Schuster). Gerald Schroeder lives in Jerusalem with his wife (the author, Barbara Sofer) and their five children. He moved to Israel from the USA in 1971. In addition to his current work in radiation control, he teaches at the Aish HaTorah College of Jewish Studies in Jerusalem, and writes and lectures on the extraordinary confluence of modern science and ancient biblical commentary. Schroeder served in the IDF as did his two sons as officers. B.Sc. Chemical engineering, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.) M.Sc. Earth and planetary sciences, M.I.T. Ph.D. Earth and planetary sciences and nuclear physics, M.I.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 That's some resume. I'm filling out my timesheet for yesterday, and it's not adding up. I wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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