K-9 Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 Until Tasker makes the HOF, then all we hear about the importance of special teams and needing to execute in "all three phrases" is just lip service from the media. Coaches and players know how important STs play is, but the writers don't seem to have a clue. Instead they need to quantify the number of plays on the field as a barometer of a player's impact. I think it's very shortsighted. Perhaps because most haven't seen the direct impact Tasker had in so many games in his career, in spite of the limited number of opportunities in those games. Steve Tasker: game changer. GO BILLS!!!
May Day 10 Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 Side note: I have no idea how Terrell Davs--a guy with a total of 4 good years, is a HOF nominee. If he makes it, then so too should Jamal Lewis, who's name will never be brought up in the discussion. Way too many guys make the NFL HOF. That is how. It is a watered-down achievement. People complain, but MLB has it pretty correct. If nobody that year is deserving, nobody gets in. This year, cant argue with any of the 4 choices. All rock solid.
jester43 Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 It was a different era for one, and for another, he was an outstanding kick returner and receiver as well. yeah a different era where they ran more! Their career receiving numbers are almost identical. You don't think Davis might have taken a couple to the house if he had returned punts and kicks?
thebandit27 Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 yeah a different era where they ran more! Their career receiving numbers are almost identical. You don't think Davis might have taken a couple to the house if he had returned punts and kicks? Possibly, but they were much different style players IMO. Sayers, from what I've seen, was an open-field threat; a guy that was a home-run hitter. Davis was, to me, more of a workhorse style back.
dave mcbride Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) The player who is most deserving in my opinion is Terrell Davis. He is the greatest running back in NFL postseason history, and it's not even close. In 8 games, here's what he did: 204 carries 1,150 yards 13 TDs 1 Super Bowl MVP 5.64 ypc 144 ypg 1.6 TDs per game Averaged over a 16 game season, it adds up to 2,300 yards and 26 TDs. And he did it against the highest level of competition in the highest stakes games. He didn't play long, but neither did Gale Sayers. Sayers is deserving, and Davis is certainly no less deserving than Sayers. Edited January 10, 2015 by dave mcbride
HOUSE Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Tasker is more deserving then 80% of the players/ people on that list.........What a rip off. Edited January 10, 2015 by HOUSE
dave mcbride Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Tasker is more deserving then 80% of the players/ people on that list.........What a rip off. These players are all a lot more deserving than Tasker. Contrary to Marv's claim about ST representing a third of the game, it's a much more minor part than that. Tasker was a great ST player, but his contribution pales in comparison to what these guys did. Terrell Davis Jerome Bettis Kevin Greene Charles Haley Marvin Harrison Orlando Pace Junior Seau Will Shields Kurt Warner
Rico Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Some decent names, but Polian & Haley would be my only 2 locks if I was a voter, hope they both make it.
K-9 Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 These players are all a lot more deserving than Tasker. Contrary to Marv's claim about ST representing a third of the game, it's a much more minor part than that. Tasker was a great ST player, but his contribution pales in comparison to what these guys did. Terrell Davis Jerome Bettis Kevin Greene Charles Haley Marvin Harrison Orlando Pace Junior Seau Will Shields Kurt Warner I think it's apples and oranges. Feel free to discount special teams all you want, the fact remains that great special teams players can have huge impacts on games, especially at critical times and Tasker is the best ST player that ever played. It's not like his election to the HOF is gonna open the flood gates for anyone else nor does it water down or rob somebody else of a spot. Like Ray Guy, it may take a while, but his contributions to a key element of the game deserve to recognized, regardless of the amount of plays he had in games. GO BILLS!!!
l< j Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Didn't keep Gale Sayers out. Actually Sayers had 5 good years. But he also topped out at 1200 yds in his best good season....not 2000. It was a different era for one, and for another, he was an outstanding kick returner and receiver as well. Sayers' era was so different that they only had 14 games in a season. kj
Gray Beard Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Because of Tasker, there is a ST player in the Pro Bowl. Because of Tasker, there is a penalty for a gunner to purposely run out of bounds. Tasker CHANGED THE GAME!!! Isn't that the point of being a Hall of Fame Player?
Just Jack Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Tonight's the night... http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2015/01/31/football-hall-of-fame-plans-250-million-expansion-as-it-welcomes-latest-class/
Prickly Pete Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) I think it was whoever engineered the trade with Vikings desserves credit. They simply had the most talent. JJ didn't do squat in miami This. That trade should not have been allowed by the league. I think they let it through because Jerry Jones was a big shot new owner, throwing money around, and the league wanted to re-establish it's most popular franchise ("America's Team") that had been struggling for a long time. The Walker trade was the key to all of it. It threw off the natural competitive balance of the league. And Jerry Jones bought it. Edited January 31, 2015 by HoF Watkins
Prickly Pete Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) I would select any player in the Hall of Fame to play on my team before selecting Steve Tasker- Special Teams Ace. (Except I would rather have Tasker than Ray Guy) Until Tasker makes the HOF, then all we hear about the importance of special teams and needing to execute in "all three phrases" is just lip service from the media. Coaches and players know how important STs play is, but the writers don't seem to have a clue. Instead they need to quantify the number of plays on the field as a barometer of a player's impact. I think it's very shortsighted. Perhaps because most haven't seen the direct impact Tasker had in so many games in his career, in spite of the limited number of opportunities in those games. Steve Tasker: game changer. GO BILLS!! Yeah, well that's pretty much what it is. It's coach speak. Of course "execute" doesn't necessarily mean you need to excel either. I think most coaches would be happy with consistent, mistake free special teams. Just don't screw up, good plays are gravy, and big plays can't really be counted on. Edited January 31, 2015 by HoF Watkins
Quester74 Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 I'm curious.. for those that are astonished (outraged) that he didn't make the final cut, would you even give a %!$# if he had played for any other team?
Nanker Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) The most deserving person on that list is Don Coryell. He was a trail blazer and a genius in designing offenses, especially in the passing game. With respect to the offensive side of the game he was a transformative figure. He deservs an overwhelming vote for his induction. Takser was an important player during the Bills' SB run. However, he doesn't deserve to be on a candidate list for the HOF. He would be the first person to say so. Agreed on Coryell. He was brilliant and his coaching tree is legendary. He changed the game. Do not agree on Tasker. He was phenomenal. If he says he doesn't deserve to be on the list, it's because he's a humble man. He changed the game. Seau is a lock As much as any player. Edited January 31, 2015 by Nanker
Prickly Pete Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Agreed on Coryell. He was brilliant and his coaching tree is legendary. He changed the game. Do not agree on Tasker. He was phenomenal. If he says he doesn't deserve to be on the list, it's because he's a humble man. He changed the game. As much as any player. So who in the HoF do you feel is less deserving than Tasker?
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