HOUSE Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 A third person familiar with the decision told the AP that former general manager Buddy Nix and veteran scouts David G. Smith and David W. Smith will not return. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the Bills have not announced the moves. Nix held the role of special assistant since stepping down as GM in May 2013. The Smiths had a combined 58 years of NFL experience, and each held the title of scout emeritus. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-source-ryan-jackson-among-bills-coaching-candidates-172946605--nfl.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:00 AM, HOUSE said: A third person familiar with the decision told the AP that former general manager Buddy Nix and veteran scouts David G. Smith and David W. Smith will not return. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the Bills have not announced the moves. Nix held the role of special assistant since stepping down as GM in May 2013. The Smiths had a combined 58 years of NFL experience, and each held the title of scout emeritus. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-source-ryan-jackson-among-bills-coaching-candidates-172946605--nfl.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb Good. It's been known for years that the Bills scouting organization was full of dead wood that was out of touch and not putting in the needed hands-on to get things done. Get out the pruning sheers. Way overdue.
NoSaint Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:03 AM, Hopeful said: Good. It's been known for years that the Bills scouting organization was full of dead wood that was out of touch and not putting in the needed hands-on to get things done. Get out the pruning sheers. Way overdue. As if you know about the smiths?
Omar Little Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:09 AM, NoSaint said: As if you know about the smiths? I know they were a good band.
Big Turk Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:09 AM, NoSaint said: As if you know about the smiths? They were both scout emeritus
WotAGuy Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:09 AM, NoSaint said: As if you know about the smiths? Maybe not - but I bet he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night!
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) buh bye. If you want a ceremony, I think Seattle is ready to throw one for you! Edited January 8, 2015 by filthymcnasty08
HOUSE Posted January 8, 2015 Author Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:15 AM, YoloinOhio said: Maybe those were the QB scouts :thumbsup:
Kelly the Dog Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 Without knowing much, I would assume this was Whaley's doing, which means he has some power. There is no way the Pegulas make this decision, they don't know anything about scouting. They are holdovers from the old regime and Scouts Emeritus.
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 Which one is the former NFL fullback from the 30's?
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:21 AM, Kelly the Dog said: Without knowing much, I would assume this was Whaley's doing, which means he has some power. There is no way the Pegulas make this decision, they don't know anything about scouting. They are holdovers from the old regime and Scouts Emeritus. Maybe. I can certainly see Pegula looking at that "Emeritus" title and asking some tough questions. He isn't obligated to carry virtually retired people that Ralph knew on his payroll.
BobbyC81 Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:11 AM, matter2003 said: They were both scout emeritus Maybe they got sick of the confusion of two Dave Smith's?
Kelly the Dog Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:25 AM, Sisyphean Bills said: Maybe. I can certainly see Pegula looking at that "Emeritus" title and asking some tough questions. He isn't obligated to carry virtually retired people that Ralph knew on his payroll. That's possible, and this is just the first salvo in getting rid of the old guard. Buddy Ebsen had to go though.
Captain_Quint Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:21 AM, Kelly the Dog said: Without knowing much, I would assume this was Whaley's doing He was quoted as saying "...and get rid of those 3 old white dudes that are always saying its too cold in here".
BillsBruce Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:27 AM, LittleJoeCartwright said: Maybe they got sick of the confusion of two Dave Smith's? Two Dave Smith's what?
K-9 Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 Buddy's contract expired this month and he was slated to retire anyway. I wish the two Daves good luck. Nice people and, contrary to the lynch mob mentality around here, a couple of very good scouts who've been at it a long time. GO BILLS!!!
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:30 AM, Kelly the Dog said: That's possible, and this is just the first salvo in getting rid of the old guard. Buddy Ebsen had to go though. From the other thread ... if there is truth to Overdorf getting locked out and Brandon is just acting as coffee gopher ... you may be right that this is just the first shots fired.
NoSaint Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 On 1/8/2015 at 12:30 AM, Kelly the Dog said: That's possible, and this is just the first salvo in getting rid of the old guard. Buddy Ebsen had to go though. Ultimately it's not even a firing just not a renewal.... Likely not shocking as I assumed this was a transition title not a "for life" No idea on the smith duo On 1/8/2015 at 12:34 AM, Sisyphean Bills said: From the other thread ... if there is truth to Overdorf getting locked out and Brandon is just acting as coffee gopher ... you may be right that this is just the first shots fired. I love how people think that anyone that's not a decision maker is a coffee gopher. That he's even in the room is a tip of respect to the guy heading the non football side.
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