3rdnlng Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 When Trump is president, let me tell you what will happen to these guys, ok? You don't even want to know because it's going to be amazing, okay. Believe me. I'm the best brain I know, and I talk to myself and China doesn't even want to get near me, that's how great I'm going to be. All the polls at Drudge say I'm a winner! Not like that whore Megyn Kelly. Who even watches her? No one! I heard shes going bankrupt. I'm not saying, okay, because believe me, I like that whore, i'm just saying you hear things. Oh, and 9/11? Total disaster that wasn't even real because some of my best friends told me that heat can't melt a building, okay? Total disaster. Sad! There's your Trump presidency in a nutshell. You should dial back. I've always thought of you as a great poster. This Trump hatred is not very worthy of you. Yes, he can sound like an idiot but does have some solid opinions. We should chill out for awhile before deciding who we are going to throw our support to. What happens if Cruz is screwed by the affair allegations and Hillary gets indicted? Will you vote for Sanders or Trump? Gary Johnson is a cop-out.
Justice Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Justice, I saw a report on this group on TV tonight and thought I'd look it up online. This group could be an answer for you to Chef's questions and all the other ones you've been asked. Please click on the link, read about them and tell us if you would join the group. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7009/muslim-reform-movement DECLARATION A. Peace: National Security, Counterterrorism and Foreign Policy 1. We stand for universal peace, love and compassion. We reject violent jihad. We believe we must target the ideology of violent Islamist extremism in order to liberate individuals from the scourge of oppression and terrorism both in Muslim-majority societies and the West. 2. We stand for the protection of all people of all faiths and non-faith who seek freedom from dictatorships, theocracies and Islamist extremists. 3. We reject bigotry, oppression and violence against all people based on any prejudice, including ethnicity, gender, language, belief, religion, sexual orientation and gender expression. B. Human Rights: Women's Rights and Minority Rights 1. We stand for human rights and justice. We support equal rights and dignity for all people, including minorities. We support the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. 2. We reject tribalism, castes, monarchies and patriarchies and consider all people equal with no birth rights other than human rights. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. Muslims don't have an exclusive right to "heaven." 3. We support equal rights for women, including equal rights to inheritance, witness, work, mobility, personal law, education, and employment. Men and women have equal rights in mosques, boards, leadership and all spheres of society. We reject sexism and misogyny. C. Secular Governance: Freedom of Speech and Religion 1. We are for secular governance, democracy and liberty. We are against political movements in the name of religion. We separate mosque and state. We are loyal to the nations in which we live. We reject the idea of the Islamic state. There is no need for an Islamic caliphate. We oppose institutionalized sharia. Sharia is manmade. 2. We believe in life, joy, free speech and the beauty all around us. Every individual has the right to publicly express criticism of Islam. Ideas do not have rights. Human beings have rights. We reject blasphemy laws. They are a cover for the restriction of freedom of speech and religion. We affirm every individual's right to participate equally in ijtihad, or critical thinking, and we seek a revival of ijtihad. 3. We believe in freedom of religion and the right of all people to express and practice their faith, or non-faith, without threat of intimidation, persecution, discrimination or violence. Apostasy is not a crime. Our ummah--our community--is not just Muslims, but all of humanity. We stand for peace, human rights and secular governance. Please stand with us! I've been a part of that group. I don't need to make it official by joining. I already believe in all of those things.
Maury Ballstein Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Rights for women and minorities in Islamic states ? Good one.
Tiberius Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 You should dial back. I've always thought of you as a great poster. This Trump hatred is not very worthy of you. Yes, he can sound like an idiot but does have some solid opinions. We should chill out for awhile before deciding who we are going to throw our support to. What happens if Cruz is screwed by the affair allegations and Hillary gets indicted? Will you vote for Sanders or Trump? Gary Johnson is a cop-out.lol, what are you coaching him? "We" ? How about you think independently? Or are you worried you won't put up a united front on this board? Trump really is nauseating and if you don't see that, it's your fault. LA can make up his own mind, stop trying to bully him
truth on hold Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Isis sure are a bunch of bungholes making a video celebrating the murder of innocents, as if it's some kind of military conquest. http://youtu.be/u3Yj0rcgZJ4
Justice Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Rights for women and minorities in Islamic states ? Good one. Women had rights in Iraq while Saddam was in power. Women have no rights in Saudi Arabia. Remind me which one are we allies with again?
meazza Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Isis sure are a bunch of bungholes making a video celebrating the murder of innocents, as if it's some kind of military conquest. http://youtu.be/u3Yj0rcgZJ4 What is the difference between this and the ones you fap over where Jews are murdered?
3rdnlng Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 lol, what are you coaching him? "We" ? How about you think independently? Or are you worried you won't put up a united front on this board? Trump really is nauseating and if you don't see that, it's your fault. LA can make up his own mind, stop trying to bully him You truly are a dumbass, Mr. Shart.
truth on hold Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 What is the difference between this and the ones you fap over where Jews are murdered?The latter are in your sick dreams
IDBillzFan Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 You should dial back. I've always thought of you as a great poster. This Trump hatred is not very worthy of you. Yes, he can sound like an idiot but does have some solid opinions. We should chill out for awhile before deciding who we are going to throw our support to. What happens if Cruz is screwed by the affair allegations and Hillary gets indicted? Will you vote for Sanders or Trump? Gary Johnson is a cop-out. I've been very clear. I want no part of Trump. I didn't pick up the conservative fight years ago to have it run by a cartoon nutbag who spent the last 40 years backing Democrats, only to turn to the right because he saw an opportunity. He's playing you, and everyone else falling for his ridiculous soundbites, and to make matters worse, he's being played by the media, setting him up for the big drop at the hands of a Hillary ass-whooping. If there is any surprise here, it's not that I'm critical of Trump but that a more genuinely conservative poster like yourself actually thinks he represents your views. Cruz isn't getting bit by an affair and Hillary isn't going to get indicted, and even if they both happened, there is no way I want any part of Trump because he simply does not represent my political beliefs. I'm actually surprised you think he represents yours. Dial back. Please. If anything, you should embrace the internal strife because when you're willing to settle for whomever pops up, your party ticket ends up with a socialist and an angry white entitled women who laundered foreign funds through her 'foundation' while acting as SoS.
B-Man Posted March 26, 2016 Author Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Book: More militant Islamics ´than ever before in history´Washington Examiner, by Paul Bedard Original Article from the London Center of Policy Research ISIS SUPPORTERS RELEASE VIDEO WITH EXPLODING EIFFEL TOWER. Funny how the media cluelessly asks, “What does ISIS want?”, when ISIS couldn’t make it clearer. . Edited March 26, 2016 by B-Man
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 When Trump is president, let me tell you what will happen to these guys, ok? You don't even want to know because it's going to be amazing, okay. Believe me. I'm the best brain I know, and I talk to myself and China doesn't even want to get near me, that's how great I'm going to be. All the polls at Drudge say I'm a winner! Not like that whore Megyn Kelly. Who even watches her? No one! I heard shes going bankrupt. I'm not saying, okay, because believe me, I like that whore, i'm just saying you hear things. Oh, and 9/11? Total disaster that wasn't even real because some of my best friends told me that heat can't melt a building, okay? Total disaster. Sad! There's your Trump presidency in a nutshell. As LA secretly pulls the lever for The Donald come November...
Nanker Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 And if that 99% would ostracise the 1% who are the true infidels, the problem would go away. But they haven't. And don't give me the tired response that the majority of Muslims don't support terrorists. They don't. But it's clear that a large number also haven't stood up to the terrorists What? And get your head chopped off? Horsecrap. All religions have their fundamentalist wackos, but the difference is that they're treated as pariahs by the vast majority of adherents and certainly don't receive monetary and operational support from that majority. It's time for Islam to step up and clean up its back yard. What? And get blown up by a suicide murderer? No one is asking you to change the scriptures. You're being asked to literally turn your backs on the terrorists and stop providing support & safe havens. What? And get burned alive in a cage? These discussions about Islam go nowhere. Pretty much. It's sad really. Kind of like their children... they blow up so young.
Chef Jim Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Women had rights in Iraq while Saddam was in power. Women have no rights in Saudi Arabia. Remind me which one are we allies with again? Why do woman not have rights in Saudi Arabia? Is that because of political or religious reasons. Serious question.
Nanker Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Regarding the latest wave of Muslim radical terrorism sweeping the globe, Obama has a planned response to the next terrorist attack. No worries. He'll do the macarena.
Justice Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Why do woman not have rights in Saudi Arabia? Is that because of political or religious reasons. Serious question. Political and cultural. Edited March 26, 2016 by Justice
ExiledInIllinois Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Like GG and others have said... The burden squarely falls on the mainstream Islamic establishment to implement change and denounce the radicals as pariahs. People like Justice to urge their leadership to excommunicate the radicals. The burden is here w/them. You are either embracing western culture or you are adding to the problem. No fence sitting. Is there a way to damn the radicals, excommunicate. Who is in power here w/regard to the religion. The bad guys or good guys? Somebody needs to step up to the plate and lead these radical dogs. Can the radical factions be damned, excommunicated for what they are doing. Of course they won't listen, but the seed has to be planted that in what they are doing will damn them from reaching paradise w/their God. That is NOT ever going to come from western society, it sinply can't The cancer has to be cured from within the mind first, then heal the body of Islam. Edited March 26, 2016 by ExiledInIllinois
Ozymandius Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I don't blame people for hating Muslims. I understand. I can only speak to you fine folk and pray I change a mind or two (not f'in likely). Lol. This is the only forum I participate in. Believe it or not I might be in favor of Trump's plan to go after the family of terrorists. Hey, if it persuades these ppl to stop I'm all for it. It's worth a shot. You're a good man, Justice. Men like you and men like me have collaborated before. Let's stop terrorism for real.
keepthefaith Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 Bottom line...... The Middle East is exceptionally !@#$ed up.
3rdnlng Posted March 26, 2016 Posted March 26, 2016 I've been very clear. I want no part of Trump. I didn't pick up the conservative fight years ago to have it run by a cartoon nutbag who spent the last 40 years backing Democrats, only to turn to the right because he saw an opportunity. He's playing you, and everyone else falling for his ridiculous soundbites, and to make matters worse, he's being played by the media, setting him up for the big drop at the hands of a Hillary ass-whooping. If there is any surprise here, it's not that I'm critical of Trump but that a more genuinely conservative poster like yourself actually thinks he represents your views. Cruz isn't getting bit by an affair and Hillary isn't going to get indicted, and even if they both happened, there is no way I want any part of Trump because he simply does not represent my political beliefs. I'm actually surprised you think he represents yours. Dial back. Please. If anything, you should embrace the internal strife because when you're willing to settle for whomever pops up, your party ticket ends up with a socialist and an angry white entitled women who laundered foreign funds through her 'foundation' while acting as SoS. The thing is, I don't back Trump unless it is a battle between him and Clinton and possibly Sanders. I prefer Kasich and then Cruz.
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