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It's simply a matter of trust or should I say mistrust. The Palestinians are clearly paranoid over the Aqsa Mosque. Closures of the site of worship don't help, it just further fuels the paranoia. They've been digging underneath that area for a while now and there's fear that the very foundation of the mosque will collapse. That leads to the fighting you see there now.

 

The guy made some great points, but he lost credibility with me when he said the Palestinians have received $31B in aide. That's a B not a M. I'm calling BS on that.

 

http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000592

 

The amounts are there though I don't know where he got 30 B.

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http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000592

 

The amounts are there though I don't know where he got 30 B.

I agree with him though. The Palestinian authority is corrupt. They love the bloodshed and on both sides, too. They think that's what it's gonna take to get the two state solution, but they're wrong, as usual. Peaceful resistance is the only way to go. You'll get the world's sympathy and eventually will get your own state.

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I agree with him though. The Palestinian authority is corrupt. They love the bloodshed and on both sides, too. They think that's what it's gonna take to get the two state solution, but they're wrong, as usual. Peaceful resistance is the only way to go. You'll get the world's sympathy and eventually will get your own state.

 

So do I.

 

Personally I think Islam has to look in the mirror before any actual change will happen. Not enough have renounced violence.

If you want an example, look at the Memri video from the Saudi singer posted earlier.

 

Or another example

 

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/5095.htm

 

"Which Syrians sleep the soundest? Those living in the Golan"

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So do I.

 

Personally I think Islam has to look in the mirror before any actual change will happen. Not enough have renounced violence.

If you want an example, look at the Memri video from the Saudi singer posted earlier.

 

Or another example

 

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/5095.htm

 

"Which Syrians sleep the soundest? Those living in the Golan"

Can't say I agree with that. Islam isn't an opinion by a few people, not even millions for that matter.

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http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000592

 

The amounts are there though I don't know where he got 30 B.

 

That site totals about $27B since 1993. Close enough for sound bytes.

Can't say I agree with that. Islam isn't an opinion by a few people, not even millions for that matter.

 

The problem is that while Islam is a religion, it's also a political viewpoint to a lot of people (not just Muslims, and not all Muslims either). Most people would not take issue with the religious tenets of Islam, if they knew what they were and could separate them from the political.

 

And that change - the politics of "Islam" - is what has to start with self-introspection by Islamic societies. Because 1) what they're doing now really isn't working; it breeds oppression rather than eases it, and 2) the opinions of non-Muslims towards Islam can't start to change until Islam itself starts to change politically.

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Is 'a 360 degree difference' some kind of term or colloquialism I've never heard before, or is the Turkish PM in need of brushing up on his metaphors?

 

He went full gatorman.

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Funny how everything that comes out of the Obama administrator requires "clarification" as we never fail to fully grasp what they mean.

 

You'd think birddog is composing the statements.

 

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/State-Department-clarifies-Kerrys-link-between-terror-wave-and-settlements-424981

 

Whats funny (and not "ha ha" funny) is that we intervene in Syria's uprising on the "rebels" side saying its the government's fault for a crackdown on protests, yet the Israeli occupation and routine slaughter of an occupied population has no bearing on the violence? hmmmm..... Edited by JTSP
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Is 'a 360 degree difference' some kind of term or colloquialism I've never heard before, or is the Turkish PM in need of brushing up on his metaphors?

 

Fermions spin through 720 degrees in a complete revolution.

 

Not the least bit relevant to the topic...just showing off.

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Whats funny (and not "ha ha" funny) is that we intervene in Syria's uprising on the "rebels" side saying its the government's fault for a crackdown on protests, yet the Israeli occupation and routine slaughter of an occupied population has no bearing on the violence? hmmmm.....

 

Wow you really got me there :rolleyes:

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Whats funny (and not "ha ha" funny) is that we intervene in Syria's uprising on the "rebels" side saying its the government's fault for a crackdown on protests, yet the Israeli occupation and routine slaughter of an occupied population has no bearing on the violence? hmmmm.....

 

The US supports democracies and does not support authoritarian despotism. What a...surprise... :rolleyes:

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The US supports democracies and does not support authoritarian despotism. What a...surprise... :rolleyes:

Lol....

 

The politics of Saudi Arabia takes place in the context of an absolute monarchy, where the King of Saudi Arabia is both head of state and the head of government, but decisions are, to a large extent, made on the basis of consultation among the senior princes of the royal family and the religious establishment. The Qur'an is declared to be the constitution of the country, which is governed on the basis of Islamic law (Shari'a).

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Saudi_Arabia

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Full circle Gatorman to be exact.

 

:lol:

 

 

Fermions spin through 720 degrees in a complete revolution.

 

Not the least bit relevant to the topic...just showing off.

:lol:

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Fermions spin through 720 degrees in a complete revolution.

 

Not the least bit relevant to the topic...just showing off.

Don't they only do that if you feed them after midnight?

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Catches fire ??

 

Catches fire ?

 

A Palestinian mob set fire to a Jewish holy site this morning. This is how @CNN reported it.

 

 

lol

 

So the mosque is under attack (which it isn't) and they respond by attacking an important religious symbol and no one cares.

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lol

 

So the mosque is under attack (which it isn't) and they respond by attacking an important religious symbol and no one cares.

 

And when whatever Israeli fire department responds, they'll cry "Palestinian oppression!"

 

Sooner or later, some idiot's going to bomb the al Aqsa mosque. Then ****'s really going to get real.

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