B-Man Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 It’s Time for Honest Talk about Muslim Immigration by David French Some immigrants from jihad zones will be involved in murdering Americans. Is this an acceptable price for compassion? At 9:52 a.m. on Monday morning, a silver Honda jumped a curb at Ohio State University and plowed directly into a crowd of students, sending bodies flying through the air. As students rushed to help, a young Somali immigrant, Abdul Razak Ali Ratan, got out of the car and began attacking horrified students with a butcher knife. All told, eleven people were wounded before a university police officer shot and killed Ratan, ending the attack. Ratan is the third Muslim immigrant to mount a mass stabbing attack in 2016. The first occurred at an Israeli-owned deli in Columbus, Ohio, the second at a mall in Saint Cloud, Minn., and the third Monday at Ohio State. The attacks together wounded 25 people. The latest stabbing comes on the heels of Afghan immigrant Ahman Khan Rahami’s September bomb attacks in New York and New Jersey that left 29 injured.The toll continues. Muslim immigrants Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev killed five Americans and wounded 280 in the Boston Marathon bombing and subsequent shootouts. Muslim immigrant Muhammad Abdulazeez killed five men and wounded two in attacks on military recruiting stations in Chattanooga, Tenn. Muslim immigrant Tashfeen Malik accompanied her first-generation Muslim-American husband to attack a Christmas party in San Bernardino, Calif., killing 14 and wounding 22. First generation Muslim-American Omar Mateen — son of Afghan immigrants — carried out the deadliest domestic terror attack since 9/11, killing 49 and wounding 53 at Orlando’s Pulse nightclub. And if you think these are the only terrorist immigrants — or terrorist children of immigrants — you’re sadly mistaken. The Heritage Foundation has maintained a comprehensive database of terror plots since 9/11, a database that includes foiled attacks. The number of Muslim immigrants involved is truly sobering. For every successful attack, there are multiple unsuccessful plots, including attacks that could have cost hundreds of American lives. After all these incidents, can we finally have an honest conversation about Muslim immigration — especially Muslim immigration from jihadist conflict zones? When we survey the American experience since 9/11, two undeniable truths emerge, and it’s past time that we grapple head-on with them. First, the vast majority of Muslim immigrants — no matter their country of origin — are not terrorists. They won’t attack anyone, they won’t participate in terrorist plots, and they abhor terrorism. Some even provide invaluable information in the fight against jihad. That’s the good news. The bad news is the second truth: Some Muslim immigrants (or their children) will either attempt to commit mass murder or will actually succeed in killing and wounding Americans by the dozens. All groups of immigrants contain some number of criminals. But not all groups of immigrants contain meaningful numbers of terrorists. This one does. It’s simply a fact. Moreover, there isn’t an even geographic distribution of terrorists. We don’t have as many terrorist immigrants from Indonesia, India, or Malaysia as we do from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, or from the conflict zones in the Middle East. It’s much less risky to bring into the country a cardiologist from Jakarta than a refugee from Kandahar.If the Democrats wish to maintain immigration from jihadist conflict zones, they need to rid their rhetoric of the language of “Islamophobia” and tell the truth. If they want to continue admitting refugees from jihad zones, they need to make the case that meeting the humanitarian needs of an an extremely small fraction of the world’s Muslim refugees is worth the cost of importing a small number of mass murderers. They must make the case that the human toll in America is the price we must pay for national compassion. Of course no Democrat wants a terror attack to occur, but Democrats must understand and acknowledge that under present policies, such attacks will occur — despite our best efforts to stop them.But I’d submit that America can show compassion without opening its borders to an uncertain number of jihadist killers. We can maintain and expand existing safe zones in the Middle East. We can project power to continue to roll back ISIS and provide space for people to return to their homes. We can implement new tests for immigrants and restrict immigration from volatile regions. At the same time, we can avoid paranoia and appreciate the peacefulness and patriotism of the vast majority of our existing Muslim population. The Trump administration has an opportunity to implement a rational policy — one that rewards friends, preserves Muslim homes in the Middle East, and protects our borders far more effectively than did the Obama administration. In the 15 years of American engagement since 9/11, we have worked with a host of interpreters, allied soldiers, and sympathetic officials — many of whom have endured enormous risks to fight jihad. We should welcome these people with open arms. Muslim immigrants from outside jihadist conflict zones should be welcome as well, provided that they do not profess allegiance to the ideology of our enemies.Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442565/muslim-immigration-ohio-state-stabbing-shows-dangers-lets-be-honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Every time a Muslim commits a crime, they're told it's terrorism. Then they're told - repeatedly, and falsely - that Trump wants to kick them out of the country. Yes, they're somewhat intimidated at this point. see below first.... You should have heard the discussions I had witht them after the gay club shooting and Paris attacks. They were sad, they were hurt. They were disappointed in the gunmen. They spoke out against him and said that is not what their religion preaches. It preaches love Compare this to the majority that work for me that are American and after the Charlotte riots and other race issues. They're mad,theyre hateful, theyre Preaching hate because all they have is fear and ignorance. I've not got any Muslim, any budhaist or any foreigner (kenya, vietnam, iraq, Mexico, etc) worker who isn't slightly afraid of being discriminated against. But they do not let it dampen their life. They work hard to integrate, work and beat stereotypes. My Iraqi man, I'm told, rode his bike to work every day 6 yrs until he could afford to buy a car, only after bringing his wife and son here. He works overtime whenever he can. He joins any team he can, he struggled to learn English but took every opportunity he could. These folks make minimum wage in some cases. I love them all like family. And I would defend their right to take either viewpoint. But, util anyone spends time in situations like this they'll never appreciate who these people are. Why? They're not being persecuted. They're offended somehow? Merry Christmas. but they are. Turn on the tv. Muslims are terrorists. Whities are racists. Blacks are killing each other and everyone else. Police are killing non whites. Walls will be made, jobs will be stripped and immigrants deported. Muslims, whites, women and police being targeted. C Yep, Muslims have nothing to fear. But not those I work with. They tell me they won't live j fear. Of over the 100 people I work with half are foreign born. There Muslims, rednecks, blacks, Africans, whites, middle class, senior citizens, young adults, Vietnamese, Asians, Hispanics, Native America, etc all working together Edited December 1, 2016 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Jeff, please do us all a favor. Turn on auto-correct. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Jeff, please do us all a favor. Turn on auto-correct. Please.sadly it is on. My tablet was downloading torrents and I had streaming going on. I need a new laptop. Last one crapped out. Keys got all sticky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 sadly it is on. My tablet was downloading torrents and I had streaming going on. I need a new laptop. Last one crapped out. Keys got all sticky Use a Kleenex or something, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 sadly it is on. My tablet was downloading torrents and I had streaming going on. I need a new laptop. Last one crapped out. Keys got all sticky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 It's not what you think... from my super secret Boyst spy cam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 It's not what you think... from my super secret Boyst spy cam... Are the empty yogurt containers from the failed week he thought he was dieting, or did he just stupidly mistake them for ice cream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) It's not what you think... from my super secret Boyst spy cam... Dude smokes Newports? I should have known. EDIT: I'd like to know what you googled to come up with that? LOL Edited December 2, 2016 by Chef Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 EDIT: I'd like to know what you googled to come up with that? LOL It may have been "Jboyst home security cam". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Dude smokes Newports? I should have known. EDIT: I'd like to know what you googled to come up with that? LOL Messy eating at computer desk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 “What is more, no wise man, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him (lying, false Prophet Muhammad) from the beginning. Those who believed in him were BRUTAL men and desert wanderers, utterly IGNORANT of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Mohammed FORCED others to become his followers by the VIOLENCE of his arms.” FATHER THOMAS AQUINAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Oh great. This moron is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 “What is more, no wise man, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him (lying, false Prophet Muhammad) from the beginning. Those who believed in him were BRUTAL men and desert wanderers, utterly IGNORANT of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Mohammed FORCED others to become his followers by the VIOLENCE of his arms.” FATHER THOMAS AQUINAS Except Thomas Aquinas never wrote that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Except Thomas Aquinas never wrote that. Details... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Details... Obfuscating with them, no less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Can we lock gator/tiberius and pearl in a room together somewhere and forget where we put the key? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Can we lock gator/tiberius and pearl in a room together somewhere and forget where we put the key? Bad Idea. They might breed and start their own cult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Bad Idea. They might breed and start their own cult. Yeah, and it would be a cult dedicated to...me. Let's not do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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