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Hell, our FBI can't even find Omar Mateen's wife, and they actually HAD her, so we don't really have room to talk.

 

:lol: True. It's just a really bizarre event. I'm not saying something is being covered up, it may well be that the early reports were just wrong. Though the video was compelling (and since removed, scrubbed like most of the social media accounts that were on the ground in Munich) enough to raise questions, especially when combined with police testimony from the first LEOs on site.

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A report I heard is that someone heard the shooter shouting "F'ing immigrants!"

 

They've got that one on video. He shouted "I'm German" as well before firing.

 

There was a second video taken from a balcony where the guy filming on his phone was taunting the shooter -- that got taken down and only an edited version survived as far as I can tell.

 

Then there was video from the actual mall that showed at least two gunmen, dressed completely differently from the guy in front of the McDonalds -- that one got taken down entirely.

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Dave, its not your imagination

 

Just as butt-hurt as Gloria Vanderbilt's son was, to hear the Orlando shooter wasn't particularly gay, nor a "homophobe" par excel-lance, but just your "normal" Muslim Jihadist Mentally Deranged Sociopath and Psychopath who vehemently hates western culture, all the while living in it and reveling in it's delicious benefits, and then his schizophrenia takes over and he decides he's had enough and has to take out 50-60 or however many he can in a retarded military-esque show of perverse public decorum that would make a Waffen SS detachment gulp in disbelief. But he made his "friends" and family so proud. Sigh. "They blow up so young, don't they?" said his aunt tearfully to his mother.

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Question for you. Have most who have jumped to that conclusion lately been correct?

 

Question for you: Does the eagerness of jumping to the sometimes right conclusion belie a dangerous bias?

 

I guess it's only a problem when the [other side] does it. When BLM assumes the police officer is white, it's a problem for the right. When the righties assume a random mass killer is an islamist extremist, it's not? Here's the truth: Both side's eagerness to jump to conclusions is fueled by something darker than logic.

 

The narrative on this one stinks.

 

While I understand any information coming out of an active and chaotic crime scene is not the most reliable, when you have multiple sources reporting multiple shooters -- including police and video footage of multiple shooters -- and then suddenly the story changes to one shooter (after Munich police wiped social media and begged people to stop posting videos and images)... that's just inherently fishy.

 

One shooter shut down an entire city while 2,300 cops searched for him... That's either utter ineptness or complete dishonesty.

 

Remember the Boston Marathon? Finding a single person who doesn't want to be found is not easy.

 

As to the rest, your association with tinfoil-hat theories makes me unsure of how to respond. Guess I'll keep reading what comes out from "them."

What is Hillary telling you to think ?

 

You can be against Hillary, Trump, and ignorance...all at once!

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As to the rest, your association with tinfoil-hat theories makes me unsure of how to respond. Guess I'll keep reading what comes out from "them."

 

 

Yes, thinking for one's self is indeed tinfoil-hattish in this environment. ;)

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They've got that one on video. He shouted "I'm German" as well before firing.

 

There was a second video taken from a balcony where the guy filming on his phone was taunting the shooter -- that got taken down and only an edited version survived as far as I can tell.

 

Then there was video from the actual mall that showed at least two gunmen, dressed completely differently from the guy in front of the McDonalds -- that one got taken down entirely.

I agree with you. Something is not adding up here.

 

I'm sure we can trust European socialists with an agenda to protect their terrorist refugees. They wouldn't withhold information like torture and mutilation at the bataclab or anything....

 

Have we caught the Orlando shooters wife yet?

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Question for you: Does the eagerness of jumping to the sometimes right conclusion belie a dangerous bias?

 

I guess it's only a problem when the [other side] does it. When BLM assumes the police officer is white, it's a problem for the right. When the righties assume a random mass killer is an islamist extremist, it's not? Here's the truth: Both side's eagerness to jump to conclusions is fuled by something darker than logic.

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So is that a yes or a no answer to my question? Because that's all I was looking for not a sermon.

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So is that a yes or a no answer to my question? Because that's all I was looking for not a sermon.

 

I don't know the answer. I don't even know what this German guy's story is yet. My point was less about whether posters' race to judge sans facts ends up being right, but that it's a dangerous way to back your "reason."

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I don't know the answer. I don't even know what this German guy's story is yet. My point was less about whether posters' race to judge sans facts ends up being right, but that it's a dangerous way to back your "reason."

 

Considering the reason for the recent wave of attacks, saying "I'll bet it was Muslim extremist terrorism" upon first learning about it is probably a good bet. It's sticking with it if/after it proves to be false that's the problem.

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Considering the reason for the recent wave of attacks, saying "I'll bet it was Muslim extremist terrorism" upon first learning about it is probably a good bet. It's sticking with it if/after it proves to be false that's the problem.

 

Are you and Ozymandius in competition to see which one of you can post "Bet it was a Muslim killer" on PPP first?

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Are you and Ozymandius in competition to see which one of you can post "Bet it was a Muslim killer" on PPP first?

Can you explain the tangible "danger" assuming terrorists attacks are of the Islamic nature poses?

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Can you explain the tangible "danger" assuming terrorists attacks are of the Islamic nature poses?

Reaction bias. Herd mentality. Racial bias enforcement. Stupidity.

 

Rushing to judge on a bulletin board is not life or death.

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Are you and Ozymandius in competition to see which one of you can post "Bet it was a Muslim killer" on PPP first?

 

No, I wait until I get the facts before I post it. But I was saying what I said above to myself from the moment I heard the news.

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It's always best to be reserved in comments. However, with the fur flying so thick as it has in recent days I can understand how people would have a reflexive reaction to new "terror" news and an a priori "belief" that it was Islamic in nature. In truth there is an Islamic "connection"in this case, however slight. It doesn't seem the primal motivator for this thoroughly conflicted pimple-picking shi t-head. That we're all the better that he's been wiped from the face of the earth so no one else has to breathe the same air as this azz-hole mother fu cking degenerate piece of sh it, that hopefully will be licking the miles long razor blade of Satan with his tongue for all eternity is some small consolation for the family, friends, and loved ones of the people he assassinated. May he rot in Hell for all eternity and his 72 (or however many these derelicts of humanity "believe") virgins, be virgin bulls, and may Allah have mercy on his azz hole... not!

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