FluffHead Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 @ByTimGraham: Eep RT @JohnMiddlekauff A source told me Mike Shanahan could take on a GM type role in Buffalo while Kyle became the head coach
Rocky Landing Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I found the way the Shanahans handles themselves, and their team, in DC was appalling. Even just the way they treated McNabb, in the short time he was there, was utterly rotten. To me, from the outside, the atmosphere in DC looks absolutely toxic.
BADOLBILZ Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) I think the author, Tim Kawakami, raises some cogent objections to the plan. Kyle Shanahan is like Reich, only less so: a young guy, very wet behind the ears, unclear what his skill level is as of yet. One year in, the Browns offense wasn't exactly lighting the league on fire. MIke Shanahan expects to run the show, has a "meh" record for the last decade plus, and it's notorious that dads tend to be unobjective about their sons. Shanahan isn't exactly going to be poised to leave Schwartz and the D alone, either. He'll want his own guys. I don't want either of them, frankly. They certainly appear to be interviewing every candidate any other team is considering and a few more. That is just such a bad idea (dad pres son coach). It's like Wilson and his untouchable cronies, redux and related by blood. Shanahan doesn't have his own defensive guys. It was always his weakness. He had Greg Robinson as DC during his Super Bowl winning years. You may remember him as the guy who recruited the players that helped Doug Marrone get the program back to .500. In any event.......it's no small feat that he won two SB's with that guy at the helm of his defense. Robinson has been working his way down the ranks of football ever since. Later Shanny became the "Brown collector".....building a defense entirely of former Cleveland Brown busts to support his quest to beat his mid 2000's playoff nemesis Peyton Manning and the Colts. Coach Hayzlitt was hired because he didn't know anyone else but always liked his old Steelers defenses. Shanny basically knows dick about defense and has no "guys". There is no reason to believe he'd pass on keeping this D intact, coaches and all, so he could pursue another championship. Given a good defense......I think he could be a dangerous head coach again. Edited January 6, 2015 by BADOLBEELZ
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Shanahan doesn't have his own defensive guys. It was always his weakness. He had Greg Robinson as DC during his Super Bowl winning years. You may remember him as the guy who recruited the players that helped Doug Marrone get the program back to .500. In any event.......it's no small feat that he won two SB's with that guy at the helm of his defense. Robinson has been working his way down the ranks of football ever since. Later Shanny became the "Brown collector".....building a defense entirely of former Cleveland Brown busts to support his quest to beat his mid 2000's playoff nemesis Peyton Manning and the Colts. Coach Hayzlitt was hired because he didn't know anyone else but always liked his old Steelers defenses. Shanny basically knows dick about defense and has no "guys". There is no reason to believe he'd pass on keeping this D intact, coaches and all, so he could pursue another championship. Given a good defense......I think he could be a dangerous head coach again. Yessir I agree. Offense is his forte and they are good at it. Whats next-Cutler?
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 A lot of people on this board falling prey to the recency bias in regard to the Shanahan's. Checkout the record before the 3-4 yr stint in Washington. We would be fortunate to have them. I'm also not sure Washington is a place anyone can succeed right now.
John from Riverside Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Shanahan doesn't have his own defensive guys. It was always his weakness. He had Greg Robinson as DC during his Super Bowl winning years. You may remember him as the guy who recruited the players that helped Doug Marrone get the program back to .500. In any event.......it's no small feat that he won two SB's with that guy at the helm of his defense. Robinson has been working his way down the ranks of football ever since. Later Shanny became the "Brown collector".....building a defense entirely of former Cleveland Brown busts to support his quest to beat his mid 2000's playoff nemesis Peyton Manning and the Colts. Coach Hayzlitt was hired because he didn't know anyone else but always liked his old Steelers defenses. Shanny basically knows dick about defense and has no "guys". There is no reason to believe he'd pass on keeping this D intact, coaches and all, so he could pursue another championship. Given a good defense......I think he could be a dangerous head coach again. I honestly cannot see how in any way shape or form how this would be a bad idea...... We need offense....Shanahan knows offense...and is probably our best bet of keeping Schwartz with the defense
Augie Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I just have a really bad gut feeling about ANY father/son deal. Too many potential problems there... just not right.
SDS Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 These two clowns ran the Redskins into the ground. If you think the Bills are dysfunctional just hire Mike and Kyle. They define dysfunctional. Listening to talk radio every day on my commute was brutal as they documented how bad these two were in managing their duties.
stony Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 A lot of people on this board falling prey to the recency bias in regard to the Shanahan's. Checkout the record before the 3-4 yr stint in Washington. We would be fortunate to have them. I'm also not sure Washington is a place anyone can succeed right now. No doubt about Washington. Sh@t runs downhill, that's for sure.
fridge Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 How would Paligula hiring Shanahan and son constitute nepotism? Maybe this Paligula woman is Kyle's mom?
White Linen Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 @ByTimGraham: Eep RT @JohnMiddlekauff A source told me Mike Shanahan could take on a GM type role in Buffalo while Kyle became the head coach Do we really believe as the AP states that Bills Officials including the Pegula's interviewed Mike Shanahan - to take on the GM type role while Whaley is sitting there? Then the Raiders interviewed Mike Shanahan for just their coaching job? This is why reading most of what Tim Graham tweets is not a good idea.
TheFunPolice Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 This doesn't make much sense If Shanahan comes as HC fine but if not I'm not very interested
In space no one can hear Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Per Rotoworld: A source informed John Middlekauff of 957 The Game Bay area that- Mike Shanahan could be hired as the Bills' general manager with Browns OC Kyle Shanahan as head coach. We're sorry, Bills fans. This would be brutal. Bills in-name GM Doug Whaley was reported to be leading the search for a new head coach, but it's now been revealed new owner Terry Pegula is conducting interviews. The Bills have requested interviews with as many as 13 head-coaching candidates. The Shanahan duo wouldn't be awful in a head coach-offensive coordinator tandem, but allowing them to make all personnel decisions would be taking a huge leap of faith.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I had a feeling they were looking at mike as more of a FO guy. Wouldn't be surprised if he were the president, Whaley stayed as GM, and kyle is head coach-- or at least that is the vision.
Jauronimo Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Maybe this Paligula woman is Kyle's mom? In other words, you just wanted to type nepotism despite the circumstances?
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I had a feeling they were looking at mike as more of a FO guy. Wouldn't be surprised if he were the president, Whaley stayed as GM, and kyle is head coach-- or at least that is the vision.Yep - my first thought was he would be the so-called football czar they are looking for
Reed83HOF Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Per Rotoworld: A source informed John Middlekauff of 957 The Game Bay area that- Mike Shanahan could be hired as the Bills' general manager with Browns OC Kyle Shanahan as head coach. We're sorry, Bills fans. This would be brutal. Bills in-name GM Doug Whaley was reported to be leading the search for a new head coach, but it's now been revealed new owner Terry Pegula is conducting interviews. The Bills have requested interviews with as many as 13 head-coaching candidates. The Shanahan duo wouldn't be awful in a head coach-offensive coordinator tandem, but allowing them to make all personnel decisions would be taking a huge leap of faith. TG updated an older article indicating that the Pegula's are leading the interviews; which led to this exchange: Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 11m11 minutes ago @ByTimGraham legit ?...was Whaley "leading" HC search scoop from your source insinuating Doug, as football guy, was organizing/starting it? 0 replies 0 retweets 0 favorites Tim Graham @ByTimGraham 6m6 minutes ago @ChrisTrapasso The word "leading" might have been semantics or premature on fluid situation in aftermath of Marrone's exit. 0 replies 0 retweets 0 favorites Chris Trapasso @ChrisTrapasso 3m3 minutes ago @ByTimGraham Ahh. Thanks. Makes sense. So now you'd imagine your source wouldn't say Whaley's leading the search? Or maybe no way of knowing 0 replies 0 retweets 0 favorites Yep - my first thought was he would be the so-called football czar they are looking for That is just plain scary
Omar Little Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) What has Mike Shanahan done to merit a role atop a front office? He's made his hay as a coach and done poorly as a personnel guy. What has Kyle Shanahan done to earn a head coaching job? His offenses haven't lit the league on fire. It would be a joke to hire these two in those particular roles. I'd be OK with them as an HC/OC tandem, but that's it. Edited January 6, 2015 by Omar Little
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I had a feeling they were looking at mike as more of a FO guy. Wouldn't be surprised if he were the president, Whaley stayed as GM, and kyle is head coach-- or at least that is the vision. Yessir
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