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Yes, they have a younger, richer owner now and they won nine games, but how do they escape from this coaching/FO nightmare?

 

1. QB quits and our first-rounder got little experience this year.

2. Coach quit, walking away with $4mil for doing nothing, an embarrassment to the club if not the entire city. (Late night comics saying: how do you fire someone in Buffalo, NY? Answer: Give him $4mil."

3. Polian turns down the job of King Bill.

4. Schwartz probably walks if he doesn;t get the HC job (and if he does, we get a guy who was a poor HC

and lose a good DC)

5. Our GM is looking really bad and may not survive. He made a desperate a move at the draft

and now has no first-round pick in '15. His HC has disrespected him in public during the entire 2014 season. He looks weak.

6. We have a rookie owner unfamiliar with NFL workings and football in general who has to dig his way out from under a giant pile of shale.

 

On the good side, we got rid of Marrone, Orton and hopefully Hackett.

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It's only a few hours into the New Year, but this could be the dumbest post of all of 2015 when we look back a year from now! Well done!

wont take long before it's eclipsed...
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Yup. "New start" 2 years ago and now it's a disfunctional rubble. Qb quits. Hand picked head coach quits. Qb situation is worse off than when ralph "stepped aside"

 

Can't imagine our upcoming fa to eager to re-sign

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You realize Sammie set a Bills team record for rookie WRs, right? :wallbash:

 

you do realize he was referring to EJ Manuel and not Sammy Watkins

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Now is the time for calm. Go through the process and get the right people in place. This could be an opportunity and not a catastrophe if handled properly.

 

EXACTLY. Some folks just don't do change well. This is a golden opporunity for the Bills to get out from under a middling coach, who has done some good things, but far more baffling things.

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you do realize he was referring to EJ Manuel and not Sammy Watkins

Sigh...it's been one of those days. :doh:

 

I think it would be best to go drink some eggnog and watch some football...

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A team that was in a very similar position to the post-2014 Bills. I give you the post-2011 Titans:

 

2011 Tennessee Titans. 9-7 with Hasselbeck at QB. 8th ranked scoring defense, 21st ranked scoring offense. Everyone excited about the move to Jake Locker the next season. Top 10 defense, more athleticism/youth at QB, reason for optimism.

 

2012: Rough transition to Locker, but still 21st in offense. Defense collapses: lowest rated in the NFL.

 

2013: Locker shows great improvement but misses 7 games (Fitzy starts). Defense rebounds to 16th ranked. Reason for optimism.

 

2014: Full collapse. Total rebuild mode.

 

I'm not saying that's the path we'll follow. I certainly hope not. But the "a few tweaks here and a few tweaks there, and this team will be ready to compete in the playoffs" concept is one of the most dangerous ideas out there. In the NFL being a team on the rise is fleeting. Right now I see a team that either makes big moves to improve right now, or the most competitive Bills team in recent memory will be seen only in the rear view mirror.

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Worst bind ever?

 

How about when we had to start one of our WRs (Ed Rutkowski) at quarterback?

 

Or when we were stuck with Harvey Johnson as our Head Coach - twice?!?!?

 

If we find a good coach and competent QB, we'll be okay.

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Yeah, I don't know. Owner gets an opportunity to bring in his guys and run the ship his way. Everybody needs to get on the same page. Obvious Marrone wasn't. I like Whaley - a lot. It's easy to second guess everything in hindsight. But given what he knew at the time, I think he made the right call.

 

There are gonna be some adequate QBs available this off season in FA and trade. What scares me is the O-line. Hopefully we can fix the interior enough to give a QB more than 2 secs. We also need someone mobile *and* accurate.

 

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Yeah, I don't know. Owner gets an opportunity to bring in his guys and run the ship his way. Everybody needs to get on the same page. Obvious Marrone wasn't. I like Whaley - a lot. It's easy to second guess everything in hindsight. But given what he knew at the time, I think he made the right call.

 

There are gonna be some adequate QBs available this off season in FA and trade. What scares me is the O-line. Hopefully we can fix the interior enough to give a QB more than 2 secs. We also need someone mobile *and* accurate.

 

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I'm not at all worried about Marrone leaving. I see nothing that suggests he got more out of our talent than any other decent coach would have. But I am very concerned about the QB situation. Even with Orton on the roster we could assume that the worst we would do is a reasonably competent QB somewhere in the 25th-30th best starting QB range. There's a huge gap between that and, say, Ryan Lindley (to use an example of how really poor QB play destroys even clear playoff quality teams)

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