hondo in seattle Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 As a business decision, you can't fault Marrone. If he had stayed, he would have effectively been working for free in 2015 (he gets the $4 million either way). Plus, with no starting QB on the roster, the win total could have easily declined thus ruining his marketability. So he got out then the getting was good. Nonetheless, it feels like he quit on both his players and coaches. If Pegula had treated him unjustly in some way, you could rationalize it. But Pegs honored his contract. It was Marrone who suddenly decided that the contract he originally signed wasn't good enough. I guess a 15-17 record can go to your head.
Tyrod's Tailor Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy about him leaving the way he did. But if it's in his contract, it's in his contract....
Saint Doug Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I think we should also review rather Kyle Orton Quit ? I would have to say yes. It's different. Orton retired so he could spend more time with his family and probably to also walk away with his brain intact. None of that applies to Marrone.
YoloinOhio Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 IMO he did quit. He took money and ran because he's a coward. He was too scared to bet on himself that he could make the playoffs. He was scared of the media. He was scared of a football czar's evaluation.
FireChan Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 It's different. Orton retired so he could spend more time with his family and probably to also walk away with his brain intact. None of that applies to Marrone. Marrone makes a business decision for his family.
HOUSE Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 It's different. Orton retired so he could spend more time with his family and probably to also walk away with his brain intact. None of that applies to Marrone. He also said he was looking for the perfect situation before he came out of retirement. He did this for 4 months only Hiding behind the kids doesn't work for me.
bmur66 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Where are those kids that spray painted McLovins front yard?
YoloinOhio Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Let me guess: coaching the NY Jets will be his "dream job"
Rob's House Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Marrone makes a business decision for his family. Doesn't change the fact that he quit.
K D Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Marrone did what was best for Marrone. Let's face it, he was going to get fired next year anyhow. With EJ as the QB and Hackett calling the plays we were going to be one of the worst offenses in the league. Signing on with another team buys him a few more years as a head coach in this league. He's just looking out for himself the same way players opt out of deals all of the time. Dont hate the player hate the game
FireChan Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Doesn't change the fact that he quit. Exercised an option given to him by the Bills.
DrDawkinstein Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Exercised an option given to him by the Bills. An option to quit.
Rob's House Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Exercised an option given to him by the Bills. Which still doesn't change the fact that he quit. You're arguing his right to quit and/or the wisdom of doing so, but no matter how good his explanation is, it doesn't change the undeniable fact that he did quit.
FireChan Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Which still doesn't change the fact that he quit. You're arguing his right to quit and/or the wisdom of doing so, but no matter how good his explanation is, it doesn't change the undeniable fact that he did quit. I fail to see how it is any different from a player choosing to test FA instead of re-signing.
Rob's House Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) I fail to see how it is any different from a player choosing to test FA instead of re-signing. It's different in a lot of ways. First, the coach is the leader of the team in a way that no player is. Second, the player doesn't encourage the coach to sacrifice his well being for that of the team. I also see it as different because it's not like his status was up in the air. He talked as though he was coming back up until the 11th hour. He was contracted to coach for 4 years. He had an escape clause that allowed him to quit and he exercised it. Edited January 1, 2015 by Rob's House
FireChan Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 It's different in a lot of ways. First, the coach is the leader of the team in a way that no player is. Second, the player doesn't encourage the coach to sacrifice his well being for that of the team. I also see it as different because it's not like his status was up in the air. He talked as though he was coming back up until the 11th hour. He was contracted to coach for 4 years. He had an escape clause that allowed him to quit and he exercised it. Every player says they want to stay, until they don't. Just because a coach and a player have different roles doesn't make them different. Players lead and expect each other to sacrifice as well. If Kyle Williams left to test FA, what would say?
JDHILL Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 just another shining example of mismanagement. Add it to Mike Williams, Bryce Brown, maybe Watkins. And everything else that's gone on in the last miserable 15 years. Bottom line. We'll run franchises don't do this stuff. I don't believe this to be true... Marrone took less when he came to the Bills( Browns offered more)... Ralph's health wasn't good and anybody coming to Buffalo signing a 4 yr. deal would want some reassurances etc.. It was just a necessity that needed to be included b/c of the circumstance.
Rocky Landing Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 It's hard to keep up with this site over the last couple days. So, I've just been reading. My thoughts are this: Marrone was developing into a good NFL coach. A lot of the criticism of him, over the last couple seasons, was that he wasn't an NFL coach (nor was Hackett), but a college coach who was out of his league. That sentiment certainly rang true last season-- less so this season. Clearly, among the rest of the NFL, outside of Buffalo, he is now seen as the real deal. I agree. I don't believe he has reached his ceiling as a head coach, and if he had stayed with us, he would be a better coach for us next season as well. I wonder if he hasn't hurt his future by jumping ship so early in his NFL career in search of greener pastures. All that being said, I don't fault him his decision. Certainly, the atmosphere for him had soured, and given this season's success, he obviously has several good opportunities in front of him. But, from my armchair, I am disappointed, both for him, and for us.
Rob's House Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Every player says they want to stay, until they don't. Just because a coach and a player have different roles doesn't make them different. Players lead and expect each other to sacrifice as well. If Kyle Williams left to test FA, what would say? If his contract expired I'd say nothing. If he exercised an escape clause I'd say he quit. Whether I'd support his decision is a separate matter.
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