Luxy312 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Over the last couple of days, I've seen a lot of suggestions for head coach. I don't think that Frank Reich would be a bad choice. He has no experience, but maybe going with a guy that has some history with this team, albeit not as a coach, would be good for the team and fans alike. I also don't mind Bill Cowher. Talk about a guy with experience and history! The title of this post says it all though. Why not Schwartz? Hasn't he earned something by taking a defense that was really good with Pettine and making it even better? Another idea here would be to make Schwartz the HC and bring in Reich as the OC. I'm just throwing out some ideas here, but a bit surprised that Schwartz hasn't even been part of the conversation.
Virgil Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 If Schwartz can bring in a trestman, I'm completely okay with this. The atmosphere he created on the D was amazing and the players loved him. I think that's a good start. Â I don't like how things ended in Detroit and that did make me nervous, but I'm not against it. Â Overall, I don't think it would be worse. But I also don't know if he has the ability to identify a good qb
Best Player Available Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 The Scwartz sucked in Detroit one winning season in 5. What is the fascination with this guy? he leaves and boom their in the playoffs. Â His defense in Buffalo was completly built, had a year of success and he was handed the keys. Just what did he do besides tightening up the run D? There are probably several DC's that could have acomplished what he did this year. Considering the talent he was handed.
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 The Scwartz sucked in Detroit one winning season in 5. What is the fascination with this guy? he leaves and boom their in the playoffs. Â His defense in Buffalo was completly built, had a year of success and he was handed the keys. Just what did he do besides tightening up the run D? There are probably several DC's that could have acomplished what he did this year. Considering the talent he was handed. Â He offers an in house replacement, continuity from last years success. With the right guys on Offense, Schwartz could continue to monitor the defensive while Pep or Henderson take the reigns as DC. Schwartz is a guy with head coaching experience and I'd rather roll with him than risk losing another DC for a 4th year in a row
bigK14094 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) I am supportive of Schwartz being the HC.......I recall that Marv Levy was great with the Bills, BUT, he took a fail in a prior stint with KC. Similarily, Belicheck took a fail in Cleveland, and was all world with the Pats. So, Schwartz had a gig with the Lions, and it didn't work out. OK, lets try him and see if he learned anything last time. He sure hit the ground running here in Buffalo. So, I am A OK with Schwartz getting the job. Is there a risk, yes. Is it ad bad choice, no its not. If I were making the decision, I might do that. Of course, not all HC's succeed in their second gig......still, lets give him a shot. Unfortunately, whoever will be the head football guy for the Bills will not necessarily have a relationship with Schwartz, and these guys usually bring in their Gumba's (see Marrone, Gailey, Jauron etc etc) Edited January 1, 2015 by bigK14094
runner Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I think Schwartz would do great with a fresh start here in Buffalo. People learn from their mistakes. He has connections and could bring in someone good to run the offense. His players love him and it seems he likes it in Buffalo. There would be less of a shake up and he is young enough to possibly be here a while. Get 'er done, Terry! And do it soon....there is lots to do this off season!
Brandon Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) If I had my choice, I think it would probably be Schwartz. Normally, I'm not a big fan of hiring DCs as head coaches, especially when the offense is as awful as this one has been, but at the same time, there's something to be said for continuity. By retaining Schwartz, you likely guarantee that the defense remains one of the better units in the league, and they've proven that with a good defense, they can be fairly competitive. If he learned from his mistakes in Detroit and if he can find a decent offensive coordinator and if Whaley can find a decent QB, it just might work out. In any event, I think its the move with the least downside, as opposed to picking an outsider who will inevitably blow up the roster yet again. Edited January 1, 2015 by Brandon
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I'm tossed with Schwartz. Some coaches are just better coordinators than head coaches and I feel he falls in that category. Is the right move when we so desperately need an offense to hire a defensive mind coach? Maybe because he does have the experience that others may lack.Can he bring in a solid offensive guru?Would he necessarily leave if someone other than him is named head coach? With the talent on d we have already can someone other than Schwartz continue to keep them a solid unit. I am just not sold with his time in Detroit. If he is to be our next coach he better be brink a top offensive mind with him.
BuffaloBill Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Schwartz has to be high on the list but there must be consideration for who his OC will be. His tenure in Detroit as HC was hardly the makings of a legend. However, the opportunity for some stability at least with the D is very appealing.
NoSaint Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Continuity with the D is nice but it'd have to be an AWFUL coach to ruin them. It's all about finding someone that has a plan at qb - you better believe JS has been chasing an offensive coordinator hard the last day or two
bowery4 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 His Det. years worry me, but if he came in with the DL or DB coach as DC and a really solid OC hire maybe. I do want the D to stay together and in his system, plus the players love him and play their hearts out for him. He made crap choices it seems in Det. at OC though and his HC decisions were not the best (his teams always were undisciplined which has been sort of the same here with Maronne, too though)  Continuity with the D is nice but it'd have to be an AWFUL coach to ruin them. It's all about finding someone that has a plan at qb - you better believe JS has been chasing an offensive coordinator hard the last day or two  you mean Wanny?
Mopreme Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 My top choice would be Schwartz for many reasons: (1) continuity (2) players like playing for him (3) Comes from the Belicheck family tree so he has the connections (4) top coaches failed at their first gig, like Belicheck and Carroll so why not Schwartz? Â Alternative choice would be Rex Ryan just because he is animated, players like him and he knows the AFC East well. Plus, the rivalry with the Jets would be amazing, Marrone vs Ryan. Def. a Monday night matchup. Â I think Frank Reich is too green for HC but would be a fantastic choice for offensive coordinator/assist head coach. Â Â
NoSaint Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 His Det. years worry me, but if he came in with the DL or DB coach as DC and a really solid OC hire maybe. I do want the D to stay together and in his system, plus the players love him and play their hearts out for him. He made crap choices it seems in Det. at OC though and his HC decisions were not the best (his teams always were undisciplined which has been sort of the same here with Maronne, too though) Â Â Â you mean Wanny? Â Wanny plus injuries to Mario, our other DE, and marcel checking out would be the type of disaster that is needed to ruin our defense
GunnerBill Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Just on Schwartz in Detroit... people forget he inherited the 0-16 Lions. His first 3 years with that time he performed a major turn around to make the play-offs in year 3. After that things went sour a bit and part of that was unquestionable on him. I also worry that with his hands off the defense a bit they didn't perform defensively as well as they should have done - there was great talent there and they were #1 in the league this year I think. People presume making a top coordinator a HC helps keep that side of the ball in good check but it doesn't always happen that way. Â He will get an interview, I think there is little doubt about that and then it is down to can he convince them that he is the right guy. If Whaley is safe then the stability argument holds water and I make Schwartz favourite. If Whaley is going to be gone then I doubt Schwartz gets the job. Â He wouldn't be my first choice but there are some pluses to promoting him.
TPS Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 My top choice would be Schwartz for many reasons: (1) continuity (2) players like playing for him (3) Comes from the Belicheck family tree so he has the connections (4) top coaches failed at their first gig, like Belicheck and Carroll so why not Schwartz? Â Alternative choice would be Rex Ryan just because he is animated, players like him and he knows the AFC East well. Plus, the rivalry with the Jets would be amazing, Marrone vs Ryan. Def. a Monday night matchup. Â I think Frank Reich is too green for HC but would be a fantastic choice for offensive coordinator/assist head coach. On the bright side, he took a team decimated by the bad personnel moves of Matt Millen and got them to the playoffs in 3 years. From what I read, part of the regression in his last year was the regression of Stafford down the stretch of 2013. I'd love to see Schwartz as HC and Reich as OC.
Brandon Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I also worry that with his hands off the defense a bit they didn't perform defensively as well as they should have done - there was great talent there and they were #1 in the league this year I think. Â One thing to keep in mind about his defenses in Detroit. That same 0-16 team had one of the absolute worst defenses in NFL history. They gave up 6470 yards and 517 points in 2008. He took them from dead last in the league to a respectable 13th and 16th in his final two seasons.
JimBob2232 Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 The other thing with Schwartz is that you keep the Defensive coaches (who are under contract). That would prevent Marrone from taking them all to the Jets. Thats a big slap in the face to Marrone (although this is not a REASON to hire Schwartz...but it is a benefit).
Green Lightning Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) I could live with it. He's tough, aggressive but not reckless and the players like him. The only caveat is no green or unproven OC's. He's not my first choice, but a solid OC and Schwartz looks good to me. Edited January 1, 2015 by Green Lightning
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