Kirby Jackson Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Ha ha, Les is a disaster. Has anyone ever done less with the talent that they have than Miles??
zonabb Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Reich... offense was choked down the stretch in a playoff race and not ready Kubiak... losing record as a head coach Gase... no name prior to Manning, suddenly a superstar? and any other OC who watches his franchise QB actually coach and run the offense. Won't matter.... Marrone, Cowher, Lombardi, Belicheck..... won't be sustained winners without a QB. 3 and done for the next guy without a QB. Bank on it. Keep chasing coaches until your blue in the face, they need a QB.
Mark Vader Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Cowher. I've never been that big of a fan of his. Yes he won a Super Bowl, but he also believed that Kordell Stewart could be a successful QB in the NFL. No thanks. Kubiak. Another great OC that is not good enough as a coach. Ryan. Not interested, and I don't think we should consider him as a DC either, because we would have to change our defensive philosophy again. Marvin Lewis. I know, I know. He's still coaching. But if the Bengals lose to the Colts, he will have a career playoff record of 0-6. Also his overall regular season record is not that great. It's amazing that he is still coaching there. If he does get fired, just say no.
Reed83HOF Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Marvin Lewis. I know, I know. He's still coaching. But if the Bengals lose to the Colts, he will have a career playoff record of 0-6. Also his overall regular season record is not that great. It's amazing that he is still coaching there. If he does get fired, just say no. His longevity with the Bungles has been mind-boggling
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Reich... offense was choked down the stretch in a playoff race and not ready Kubiak... losing record as a head coach Gase... no name prior to Manning, suddenly a superstar? and any other OC who watches his franchise QB actually coach and run the offense. Won't matter.... Marrone, Cowher, Lombardi, Belicheck..... won't be sustained winners without a QB. 3 and done for the next guy without a QB. Bank on it. Keep chasing coaches until your blue in the face, they need a QB. The old chicken and the egg applies. Coach or Franchise QB first? I'm starting to wonder who will want to sign here if they make the wrong call for HC.
KOKBILLS Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I don't think Frank Reich is ready... Rex makes no sense to me...He's a 3-4 guy and we have a top 5 Defense that runs the 4-3...But...I do like the fact that he's had success vs Belichick... I'm not thrilled with the older retread guys even if they do have Super Bowl rings...I think you have to be in it every year to keep your edge...
Mark Vader Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 His longevity with the Bungles has been mind-boggling Thank you! I thought I was the only one who felt that way.
hondo in seattle Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Cowher Gruden Dungy Ryan Marrone Two of the guys you don't want are my two favorite choices: Dungy and Cowher. I hope Pegs offers them $12 million per year to come out of retirement. Cowher rumored to be visiting Buffalo: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/174779-coaches-you-dont-want/page__st__20#entry3400595 Edited January 1, 2015 by hondo in seattle
Reed83HOF Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Thank you! I thought I was the only one who felt that way. Honestly, how many times was he on the hot seat through out the years? On most others teams he would have been canned at least 3 times
hondo in seattle Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I'm surprised to see the lack of love for Dungy and Cowher. Cowher took his team to the playoffs 10 of 15 years despite QBs and other personnel coming and going. He accumulated a 140-90-1 regular season record and a 12-9 postseason record. Compare his 15 years of success to our last 15 years with no playoff appearances at all. Dungy turned two teams into winners. He made it to the playoffs 12 of 14 years - in different cities with different personnel. He went 139-69 in his 14 years. I'd be crying with joy if the Bills had that record over our last 14 years. Both Cowher and Dungy have won Super Bowls. No Bills coach has ever done that. How can Dungy or Cowher not be an upgrade over Marrone who went 25-25 with the Orange and 15-17 with us? In fact, how can they not be better choices than mediocre retreads like Rex or unproven coordinators with no HC experience? You can't argue with winning and both Cowher and Dungy have proven they know how to win in the NFL.
FireChan Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I'm surprised to see the lack of love for Dungy and Cowher. Cowher took his team to the playoffs 10 of 15 years despite QBs and other personnel coming and going. He accumulated a 140-90-1 regular season record and a 12-9 postseason record. Compare his 15 years of success to our last 15 years with no playoff appearances at all. Dungy turned two teams into winners. He made it to the playoffs 12 of 14 years - in different cities with different personnel. He went 139-69 in his 14 years. I'd be crying with joy if the Bills had that record over our last 14 years. Both Cowher and Dungy have won Super Bowls. No Bills coach has ever done that. How can Dungy or Cowher not be an upgrade over Marrone who went 25-25 with the Orange and 15-17 with us? In fact, how can they not be better choices than mediocre retreads like Rex or unproven coordinators with no HC experience? You can't argue with winning and both Cowher and Dungy have proven they know how to win in the NFL. Problem is, they proved it 10 years ago.
prissythecat Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 I'm surprised to see the lack of love for Dungy and Cowher. Cowher took his team to the playoffs 10 of 15 years despite QBs and other personnel coming and going. He accumulated a 140-90-1 regular season record and a 12-9 postseason record. Compare his 15 years of success to our last 15 years with no playoff appearances at all. Dungy turned two teams into winners. He made it to the playoffs 12 of 14 years - in different cities with different personnel. He went 139-69 in his 14 years. I'd be crying with joy if the Bills had that record over our last 14 years. Both Cowher and Dungy have won Super Bowls. No Bills coach has ever done that. How can Dungy or Cowher not be an upgrade over Marrone who went 25-25 with the Orange and 15-17 with us? In fact, how can they not be better choices than mediocre retreads like Rex or unproven coordinators with no HC experience? You can't argue with winning and both Cowher and Dungy have proven they know how to win in the NFL. Take a look at Cowher's win loss ratio and playoff appearances with and without LeBeau. I say no thanks .
Fixxxer Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Frank Reich, too green right now Gase, is his first name Peyton? Josh McDaniel, ****ty little brat Hasslet, hate the guy Jon Gruden, can't develop young QBs Rex Ryan, can't pick offensive assistants on the fence Jim Schwartz, doofus as HC in Detroit, but maybe he learned to fix his flaws. Cowher & Dungy, will they be able to get back at the grind that means being HC in the NFL?
BmarvB Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Adam Gase. He might end up a good one, but I'm leery of someone riding a great QB's coattails to a head coaching job. I Like Gase too if he keeps Schwartz and the defensive staff in place.
hondo in seattle Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Problem is, they proved it 10 years ago. True enough but schemes haven't changed that much in a decade. Anyway, being a HC is about far more than scheme. It's about leadership, building a coaching staff, working effectively with the FO, time management, focusing on what's truly important, building teamwork & accountability, etc. These guys know how to do those things. And I've got to wonder how a big name hire would affect our FA signings. I doubt if Adam Gase would attract a lot of players. But many FAs would suddenly be interested in Buffalo if Dungy was the HC. The coach I don't want is Rex Ryan. I actually think he did a credible job in New York/New Jersey but was cursed with a GM (Idzik) who didn't do him a lot of favors. Still, Rex is a bombastic buffoon, if a somewhat talented one. Plus Rex would want to change our defense and I'd rather leave Schwartz alone after seeing what he did this year. Take a look at Cowher's win loss ratio and playoff appearances with and without LeBeau. I say no thanks . How successful would Parcells have been without Belicheck? Good coaches build good staffs. Cowher did that. I'm not going to fault him for finding success with Dick LeBeau.
flmike Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 His longevity with the Bungles has been mind-boggling But Brandon said that continuity is so important!
Prickly Pete Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) True enough but schemes haven't changed that much in a decade. Anyway, being a HC is about far more than scheme. It's about leadership, building a coaching staff, working effectively with the FO, time management, focusing on what's truly important, building teamwork & accountability, etc. These guys know how to do those things. I think the Steelers do it the other way. They already have everything in place, and just move guys up through the organization, instead of having a coach come in and build it up. Cowher didn't "build" the Steelers, he took over the reins. Mike Tomlin is doing pretty much the same thing with the Steelers. I think the Steelers organization is so solid, with well defined roles for everyone in the organization, that any decent coach on their staff can step right in. I think Bill Cowher is way overrated, and a media celebrity. In every city that needs a coach, casual female fans trying to discuss football with hardcore fans will all say "I want Bill Cowher as our new coach". I don't think he has an interest in jumping back into coaching for any team that isn't already elite. He has nothing to gain, and a legend to lose. Edited January 1, 2015 by HoF Watkins
flmike Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 HC is very important, but for the Bills OC will be even bigger, since we don't have an established QB.
jumbalaya Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Marrone is a horrible game day coach. For an ex OLman he could not put together an OL to save his life. Hackett is way over his head. He can go with him. I am okay with Schwartz or Reich.
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