\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 He was awesome in college. Unanimous first team All-American, Defensive Player of the Year in the SEC. How bad can he be? See Maybin, Aaron.
dwight in philly Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 Yeah, that is a great idea with Incognito in the locker room. What could go wrong. Btw, this just in, Sam is so bad he can't even stick on an NFL practice squad, let alone make a real roster. I think the word tweener was invented for Corey Moore yea, incognito and sam in the same room.. perception is everything, but i think incognito will be keeping a very low profile off the field.. really do not think that would be a problem, but i just think (in my opinion) sam is not NFL worthy..
BarleyNY Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Michael Sam simply isn't that good. These threads get started because people think he might be a quality find. That's because they think the reason he doesn't have a job in the NFL is because of his sexual orientation (and the fact that it is known). But that's where people are wrong. His problem is that he just isn't a very good NFL player. That's due to his physical limitations of speed, strength and size. He was plenty good enough in those regards to excel in college and he played smart. But he just doesn't have the ability to play in the NFL. Teams would rather try to bring along a physical freak who might be good than a guy who doesn't ever have a chance to be more than ok. And if they did, there are plenty of players that fit that bill without the added media attention that comes with Sam. Edited February 15, 2015 by BarleyNY
Buffalo Beeeews Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 If this man is brought in to be on the same roster as Richie Incognito Rex Ryan has officially lost his mind and Pegula is already the new Al Davis.
Luxy312 Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) When all is said and done, Richie Incognito doesn't matter at all in terms of considering Michael Sam. All that matters to me is whether he's capable of playing in the NFL. There's the rub. He's not capable. He wasn't even close to being a marginal player coming out of college and now he has virtually zero chance of getting back into an NFL uniform. First, he's too small to play either defensive end or linebacker. 6-2 isn't going to cut it at DE when he's only about 260 pounds. The days of defensive ends being that small are over UNLESS you have world class footwork and speed. He has neither. He's actually on the slow side of things when it comes to speed and agility. Now tell me that a player that's kind of short to play linebacker as well that's slow and not very agile is going to be able to cover tight ends and I'll tell you that you're nuts. One AFC scout summed it up the best saying something like "it's tough considering drafting a short, slow guy whose only redeeming quality is that he tries real hard". Forget all the other nonsense. To the OP, how about not? Edited February 15, 2015 by Luxy312
Ted William's frozen head Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 For some reason, this reminds me of the Marx quote "outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read" I share this same question. He probably should, C.Biscuit. I think that recent article nailed it - in terms of talent and the stage of his development, he's a "bubble" player, the level of talent GMs keep on "speed dial" to sign in the event of injuries. No one wants any controversy or distraction in a player of that talent level, so he's wasn't on anyone's "short list" of guys to bring in. If he showed flashes of potential to be a top talent, no one would give a d**n that he's Gay. If he were straight, he has talent enough he'd have been getting looks during the season as the injury toll mounted. Hopefully he'll be given a second shot on some team during the off-season and if the media furor has died down, he'll get additional chances. But he's not strong and big and fast enough to be a sure bet in the NFL. As for the OP, I remain puzzled as to why he thinks Hughes and Sam should be mentioned in the same breath. They aren't the same type or caliber of player at all. if they sign 'em, then sign Tebow too. Make them share a locker.
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 It just wouldn't be necessary. We didn't sign Incognito because of his off the field issues. We signed him because he's an above average player at a position where we're not above average. We have the best front 7 in the NFL. No need for Michael Sam.
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Let me ask you this, if Andrew Luck were to come out as a gay Satanist, do you think he'd have a job? Of course he would, because he's a talented QB (despite what 4merper4mer would have you believe.)
Ozymandius Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Sam lacks discipline. Offenses can fool him. Run play-action and Sam is a bundle of sticks getting burned.
The Poojer Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 what the hell does being gay have to do with playing DT???? Lets say if Hughes wants a big contract. Do you think the bills should sign Michael Sam? Yes i know he gay, but I honestly believe this kid is truly hungry to play in nfl. I also would like to think he would fit just right in our Dline. I would sign this kid and see how he does in training camp and pre season.
Beef Jerky Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 what the hell does being gay have to do with playing DT???? What does any of it matter? The guys isn't a NFL player, just not good enough.
RyanC883 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 look at his combine #'s from last year. Guy is a product of the system in college. That said, I wouldn't mind him on the PS. Perhaps he just takes a few years to develop at the NFL level.
Beef Jerky Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 look at his combine #'s from last year. Guy is a product of the system in college. That said, I wouldn't mind him on the PS. Perhaps he just takes a few years to develop at the NFL level. He will show just how well he has developed in the veteran combine next month.
Clippers of Nfl Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Then by all means, buy yourself an NFL team and go out an hire him. It's that simple. What great drama! I'm sure they'd make him RI's roommate in TC. Bring on the media! Det-det-da-da-la-da. Det-det-da-da-la-da. The Circus is in town. Pretty much sums it up. People who bring up Sam as a possibility seem passionate about an agenda other than finding the best NFL caliber talent available to fit our (ever diminishing list) of needs. Agenda of gay? Aganda of passion? Agenda of passionate gay? Ha ha ha Let me ask you this, if Andrew Luck were to come out as a gay Satanist, do you think he'd have a job? Of course he would, because he's a talented QB (despite what 4merper4mer would have you believe.) I have never read these 2 words together!!!! Very funny. I'll be calling my older brother that in 3 2 1. We both are funny and always call each other on funny things. I hope this thread lasts the whole off season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ProcessAccepted Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 yea, incognito and sam in the same room.. perception is everything, but i think incognito will be keeping a very low profile off the field.. really do not think that would be a problem, but i just think (in my opinion) sam is not NFL worthy.. Ha ha, that is a really good point. Whatever chance Richie has of being a reformed character would be significantly less with Sam in the locker room. The team decided to roll the dice on Incognito so they really need to try and help him succeed.
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 He's going on Dancing with the Stars Oh man. Kinda makes it hard to defend him and giving him another shot. But good move. Does he get a male or female partner? I kid.
Kirby Jackson Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 I'd be perfectly fine with Michael Sam if he were good at football. He's not. The league doesn't have a spot for a slow, undersized edge rusher.
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 I'd be perfectly fine with Michael Sam if he were good at football. He's not. The league doesn't have a spot for a slow, undersized edge rusher. And the skill set that he does have, wouldn't even fit in with our team.
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