BmarvB Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 I would disagree with that 100%. I'd take Glennon all day over Sanchez and his 1+ turnovers per touchdown. I'd probably take Hoyer too and even Derek Anderson. Sanchez is trash. I'd take Anderson over Sanchez in a heartbeat
YoloinOhio Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 I don't think you do. This Bills team keeps bringing in journeyman to "compete". Forget competition. Give EJ all the reps with the first team. He either succeeds or fails. Splitting time with some middling QB that's failed with other teams is just that. You're wasting 50% of your reps/practice on someone that's not going to be your starter. I have no desire to see Orton/Cousins/Sanchez/Glennan/Bradford/Anderson/Clausen/Flynn/Gabbert/Campbell/Hoyer/Vick/Clemens/"Insert name here". Maybe that's just me. Regardless of how you convince yourself, none of them are an improvement over what we had this year. that is what they did last year. It didn't work.
A Dog Named Kelso Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 I don't think you do. This Bills team keeps bringing in journeyman to "compete". Forget competition. Give EJ all the reps with the first team. He either succeeds or fails. Splitting time with some middling QB that's failed with other teams is just that. You're wasting 50% of your reps/practice on someone that's not going to be your starter. I have no desire to see Orton/Cousins/Sanchez/Glennan/Bradford/Anderson/Clausen/Flynn/Gabbert/Campbell/Hoyer/Vick/Clemens/"Insert name here". Maybe that's just me. Regardless of how you convince yourself, none of them are an improvement over what we had this year. Isn't that what basically happened this year through the training camp and the first 4 games? That is not an indictment on EJ just an observation.
Luxy312 Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 glennon is not a vet Depends on your definition of "vet". He's played 2 seasons. If your definition is more than 2 seasons, then yes. If not, no.
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 How is it even possible for a person to write off EJ and think Sanchez is an option? this.
4merper4mer Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) I don't think you do. This Bills team keeps bringing in journeyman to "compete". Forget competition. Give EJ all the reps with the first team. He either succeeds or fails. Splitting time with some middling QB that's failed with other teams is just that. You're wasting 50% of your reps/practice on someone that's not going to be your starter. I have no desire to see Orton/Cousins/Sanchez/Glennan/Bradford/Anderson/Clausen/Flynn/Gabbert/Campbell/Hoyer/Vick/Clemens/"Insert name here". Maybe that's just me. Regardless of how you convince yourself, none of them are an improvement over what we had this year. If Bradford had a guarantee of health he is far better than else anyone on that list. Edited December 29, 2014 by 4merper4mer
nucci Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Sanchez is a good option. He didn't live up to the #5 pick in the draft but he's an experienced player who's made it to 2 championship games and actually looked good at times for the Jets where QBs never succeed. I also thought he played well with the Eagles this year aside from the INT against the Redskins that basically ended their playoff hopes. It was the Eagels' defense that costed them this year IMO. Sanchez is constantly knocked for one clumsy play (butt fumble). Key word being ONE clumsy play out of the many different plays he has run in his career. I would be satisfied with him for the time being (I'd take Foles too). He's knocked for throwing 80 INTs in his short career. Just like everyone saying the Bills D carried this team, so did the Jets D carry them to 2 Championship games
Luxy312 Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Isn't that what basically happened this year through the training camp and the first 4 games? That is not an indictment on EJ just an observation. No. He shared reps with the first team with the other QB's. Orton was brought in later. It's just NOT what they did. They played the "crutch" game at quarterback despite their lip service that "EJ was their guy". Pretty pathetic.
Luxy312 Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 He's knocked for throwing 80 INTs in his short career. Just like everyone saying the Bills D carried this team, so did the Jets D carry them to 2 Championship games This. Let's cite the reality of his body of work. Rode the D to the playoffs, almost like Kyle Orton did this year.
YoloinOhio Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 No. He shared reps with the first team with the other QB's. Orton was brought in later. It's just NOT what they did. They played the "crutch" game at quarterback despite their lip service that "EJ was their guy". Pretty pathetic. no he didn't share reps until the end of camp. They had no choice with how it was going. This. Let's cite the reality of his body of work. Rode the D to the playoffs, almost like Kyle Orton did this year. so why not do it again?
YoloinOhio Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 Depends on your definition of "vet". He's played 2 seasons. If your definition is more than 2 seasons, then yes. If not, no. he has not played 2 years worth of games. Not a vet by any stretch.
BuffaloRebound Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Need to do what Pete Carroll did at Seattle. Keep bringing in vets and drafting QB's until you find one. Sign or trade for a vet, and draft another one. Let Manuel compete with those 2 and hopefully cream rises to top.
YoloinOhio Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) id take bradford over sanchez any day. why? Curious to hear reasoning. Given the 9 mill/yr. and that he isn't available. Would need to trade. Edited December 29, 2014 by YoloinOhio
billsfan89 Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Sanchez is a marginal starter. My big issue with him is he isn't good enough to win you games but he is turnover prone. If you assume that our defense will be good again then we can't have turnover machine at QB. Turnovers when your offense can run up and down the field have less of an impact than when you are depending on your defense. Its the same reason why I don't want a guy like Cutler at QB either. Ideally I would make a trade for RGIII but I wouldn't give up the picks needed to make that happen.
billsfan1959 Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 so is andrew Luck and Eli Manning. Throw in a good defense and the ability to throw downfield and hit WRs for TDs in stride and it works out in the long run Sanchez is no Andrew luck or Eli Manning… Not even close
sjjr Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Sanchez is a tough guy to even come back after that butt fumble business. He's not a good fit here though. Hoyer might be interesting because he's smart, mobile and has worked through a situation where a team is trying to develop a QB beside him. He also spent time in NE. Spiller is probably gone. In the 2nd or 3rd round, a guy like Duke Johnson might be available. He has the vision and hands that Spiller doesn't but has similar speed/agility. Hughes might get too expensive. Have to think the Bills will look to lock up Dareus and Gilmore long term this offseason. If Hughes doesn't come back, have to find someone who can fill that role at a lower cost long term. Maybe look at Adrian Clayborn, Kroy Biermann or Cliff Avril to go along with a young guy from the draft like Nate Orchard or Eli Harold.
YoloinOhio Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 Sanchez is no Andrew luck or Eli Manning… Not even close didnt say he was....
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 I just think that if he wasnt able to succeed with Kelly then what hope does he have here with Hacket? CBF
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