JarHeadJim Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 (edited) Marine general says it's 'fun' to shoot some in combat By John J. Lumpkin WASHINGTON -- A decorated Marine Corps general said, "It's fun to shoot some people" and poked fun at the manhood of Afghans as he described the wars US troops are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. copyright violation - please provide link. Edited February 4, 2005 by KRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IUBillsFan Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Marine general says it's 'fun' to shoot some in combat By John J. Lumpkin WASHINGTON -- A decorated Marine Corps general said, "It's fun to shoot some people" and poked fun at the manhood of Afghans as he described the wars US troops are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. copyright violation - please provide link. 228084[/snapback] Here's a link to the story...Story According to an audio recording, he said, "Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. ... It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up front with you, I like brawling." He added, "You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." Probably about the same as I'd feel about shooting a child molestor or any guy that beats woman .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Ok we have turned into a nation of sadistic freaks. Sure many people deserve what they have comming to them, but to take enjoyment in the slaughtering of anyone for any reason is f*up. If this is what the leaders are saying imagine what the lowest marine thinks, is it now ok to torture, kill, or maim theese people because of how some of them treat women. That general is going to hell along with all of the "evil" people that he dispaches from this planet. This public service announcement brought to you by coltrane34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Jarhead Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Keep spreading the hate Tom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Ok we have turned into a nation of sadistic freaks. Sure many people deserve what they have comming to them, but to take enjoyment in the slaughtering of anyone for any reason is f*up. If this is what the leaders are saying imagine what the lowest marine thinks, is it now ok to torture, kill, or maim theese people because of how some of them treat women. That general is going to hell along with all of the "evil" people that he dispaches from this planet. This public service announcement brought to you by coltrane34. 228242[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 That people are getting freaked out by this is absurd. Killing a bad guy- especially in the context that he discussed it (men who beat and main women)- is his job. And I'm thankful that people like him are out there willing to kill the bad guys. I'm not doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 There's a way out of this...let's allow the USMC to paint smiley faces on 25mm chain gun and 40mm grenade rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 And I'm thankful that people like him are out there willing to kill the bad guys. I'm not doing it. 228314[/snapback] Or, more importantly, having it done to you and yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 HA! "GET SOME! GET SOME!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Or, more importantly, having it done to you and yours. 228330[/snapback] Exactly. Someone on here (VABills?) has a sig line about the dark men in the night who guard our freedom. I don't think about our armed forces in exactly that light, but the point is a good one. I sleep well at night because a lot of people are willing to kill any MFer who tries to mess with me (not to mention they are willing to die protecting me). I don't forget it. Our armed services are underappreciated and underpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Exactly. Someone on here (VABills?) has a sig line about the dark men in the night who guard our freedom. I don't think about our armed forces in exactly that light, but the point is a good one. I sleep well at night because a lot of people are willing to kill any MFer who tries to mess with me (not to mention they are willing to die protecting me). I don't forget it. Our armed services are underappreciated and underpaid. 228483[/snapback] I think it's a quote from Heinlein or some other writer bout "Rough and Ready men" who are willing to do what it takes. It's an awesome quote, whoever it's from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 It was George Orwell and yes it was in my sig. “People sleep peaceably in their bed at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” –George Orwell I however like my current one as well from Mills: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -- John Stuart Mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 It was George Orwell and yes it was in my sig. “People sleep peaceably in their bed at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” –George Orwell I however like my current one as well from Mills: "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -- John Stuart Mill 228547[/snapback] I knew it was a sci-fi writer, but did not know which one. Thanks. Didn't dare try a google search on that. lo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I know and have had a few beers with a former Marine general who was basically forced to retire. Morals of an alleycat, not PC at all, but MOH awardee and a great man. I actually had another senior Marine call him the type you lock up and only let him out in case of war. I was not too happy. The General (I knew him as a LtCol and Col) was a great man and cared more for this country than anyone I know. Funny thing is I didn't like his politics as he was a Democrat (hardcore). But he also swayed from hardcore Democrat beliefs when it came to the military as he knew it needed to be strong, quick, feerless, and righteous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 I know and have had a few beers with a former Marine general who was basically forced to retire. Morals of an alleycat, not PC at all, but MOH awardee and a great man. I actually had another senior Marine call him the type you lock up and only let him out in case of war. I was not too happy. The General (I knew him as a LtCol and Col) was a great man and cared more for this country than anyone I know. Funny thing is I didn't like his politics as he was a Democrat (hardcore). But he also swayed from hardcore Democrat beliefs when it came to the military as he knew it needed to be strong, quick, feerless, and righteous. 228556[/snapback] The shackling of our warriors is an embarrassment. When you unleash the dogs of war, they go to war, not to a play date. We need men that will go to war, kill people, and break things. The lines for morality in war are a lot different from the lines we draw to get through life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 The shackling of our warriors is an embarrassment. When you unleash the dogs of war, they go to war, not to a play date. We need men that will go to war, kill people, and break things. The lines for morality in war are a lot different from the lines we draw to get through life. 228575[/snapback] What's more...in as much as morality has any place in war, the most moral way to fight a war is as quickly as possible, which means you prosecute it from the start as violently as possible with everything you can bring to bear. Massive casualties don't come from wars being violent, they come from wars being long. War doesn't just have different moral rules, it turns them on its head in the interest of being humane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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