The Dean Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Zero percent. I'll happily eat my words if he comes back but there's zero chance from everyone I've spoken to about it. The guy barely plays as is in this defense and his snaps will only go down with a healthy kiko and a more seasoned brown. He's a liability in coverage, and terrific against the run -- it's just a bad fit. He'll be playing elsewhere next year, I guarantee it. Well, I have no inside info on Spikes. But I thought he did better this year in coverage (in the few situations he actually was involved) that I had expected. He really helped the team in the run game, no question. I hope the Bills make him a respectable offer, but I'm not sure they can afford to keep him since they are fairly deep at LB (assuming Kiko returns). But since he really seems to like it here, and playing fewer snaps extends his football life, I would never characterize his chances of returning at zero. And by the way, if you bet on it it's a bet you could never win. If he returns you lose. But if he doesn't, you still don't know there was no chance. I suspect the circumstances will lead him elsewhere. But I think, if the offers are close, he might return. I have posted this thread for 5 straight years and nobody has ever gotten this right. I will guess at 600 or more wrong answers.... Name 3 players on Buffalo's current 2014 53 man roster that will NOT return in 2015 Name only 3. This does not include practice or IR players Hint, People named one player like Pears over and over and it eliminated almost everyone. The obvious players can kill you........ = I must have missed your predictions.
Deranged Rhino Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Well, I have no inside info on Spikes. But I thought he did better this year in coverage (in the few situations he actually was involved) that I had expected. He really helped the team in the run game, no question. I hope the Bills make him a respectable offer, but I'm not sure they can afford to keep him since they are fairly deep at LB (assuming Kiko returns). But since he really seems to like it here, and playing fewer snaps extends his football life, I would never characterize his chances of returning at zero. And by the way, if you bet on it it's a bet you could never win. If he returns you lose. But if he doesn't, you still don't know there was no chance. I suspect the circumstances will lead him elsewhere. But I think, if the offers are close, he might return. I must have missed your predictions. Don't get me wrong, I would like him back as I think his leadership in the locker room was a big part of the 9 win season -- Im also not as wired into OBD as some posters here are, and I absolutely expect the Bills to make an offer. But it's a simple matter of money and snaps. He was on the field for less than 50% of the snaps this year, and that number will only go down next year making him essentially a backup -- and he's better than that, and worth more than what the Bills will pay for a backup LB, even if he really likes the area (which I'm sure he does). He's young and has two contracts left in him -- maybe three -- but this year will be his most valuable. Taking less money (significantly less -- unless the Bills are going to let Hughes walk and not sign any OGs or a QB) at this stage in his career to play on a defense where he's a part time player (devaluing himself even more for his next contract) is just bad business from spike's point of view.
The Dean Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Don't get me wrong, I would like him back as I think his leadership in the locker room was a big part of the 9 win season -- Im also not as wired into OBD as some posters here are, and I absolutely expect the Bills to make an offer. But it's a simple matter of money and snaps. He was on the field for less than 50% of the snaps this year, and that number will only go down next year making him essentially a backup -- and he's better than that, and worth more than what the Bills will pay for a backup LB, even if he really likes the area (which I'm sure he does). He's young and has two contracts left in him -- maybe three -- but this year will be his most valuable. Taking less money (significantly less -- unless the Bills are going to let Hughes walk and not sign any OGs or a QB) at this stage in his career to play on a defense where he's a part time player (devaluing himself even more for his next contract) is just bad business from spike's point of view. I understand where you are coming from. Same conversation I had with a couple Bills fans during the game today. I think (more like I hope) the Bills make him an offer that is a bit above his actual worth (on the field) to them, as his value to the team is more than his playing time. And because he isn't an every down LB, perhaps his offers from other teams won't be as outrageous as they would be if he were an every down LB. I characterized the possibility of re-signing him as a "relative long shot". But after reading that article about how much he like playing here, I'm hoping that helps sway the odds a bit. I know not to put too much stock in quotes from players (particularly after a win like this), but it gives me a bit more hope. I don't expect any player to give huge hometown discounts. But some guys actually care a bit about the atmosphere of their team. We probably aren't far apart on what we believe. But I have to think there is a chance to re-sign him I have to. Don't take that away from me.
Deranged Rhino Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 I understand where you are coming from. Same conversation I had with a couple Bills fans during the game today. I think (more like I hope) the Bills make him an offer that is a bit above his actual worth (on the field) to them, as his value to the team is more than his playing time. And because he isn't an every down LB, perhaps his offers from other teams won't be as outrageous as they would be if he were an every down LB. I characterized the possibility of re-signing him as a "relative long shot". But after reading that article about how much he like playing here, I'm hoping that helps sway the odds a bit. I know not to put too much stock in quotes from players (particularly after a win like this), but it gives me a bit more hope. I don't expect any player to give huge hometown discounts. But some guys actually care a bit about the atmosphere of their team. We probably aren't far apart on what we believe. But I have to think there is a chance to re-sign him I have to. Don't take that away from me. Completely fair. I won't take that from you!
JoeF Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Not on the opening day roster is a key factor... Chris Hairston Ron Brooks Marquise Goodwin
Section242 Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Bryce Brown Keith Rivers E.J. Manuel I think Brown will get cut before the opening day roster. Not sure the cap implications but I don't think Rivers will go to training camp with the team. E.J. gets traded for like a 6th or 7th.
Jkgobills Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Spikes Spiller Hughes Hope I'm wrong about Spikes and Hughes
HOUSE Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 I think you are all wrong about Spikes....just my opinion.
The Wiz Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Orton Spiller Hughes That's probably the most likely I can think of too.
The Dean Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 I think you are all wrong about Spikes....just my opinion. So, give us your picks. To be fair (even though I didn't start the thread) I will offer my three: Jordan Gay Deonte Thomas Larry Dean
NastyNateSoldiers Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Urbik Chris Williams Pears The Bills will be in full revamp mode for oline
ganesh Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Keith Rivers, Manny Lawson CJ Spiller Rivers and Lawson don't fit this scheme. Spiller hated what Hackett did to his career and will definitely not come back here to be a side kick
Big Blitz Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Spiller Chris Williams Lee Smith Edited December 29, 2014 by Big Blitz
Freddie's Dead Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) Jordan Gay Marquise Goodwin Chris Gragg The people posting Fred Jackson (probably Tampa Bob's alternate screen names) are hilarious. Most productive running back on the team by far, behind a crap O-line and one good leg. Edited December 29, 2014 by Fred Jackson Jockstrap
Recommended Posts