TakeYouToTasker Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Through 15 games this season, Jackson has 497 yards receiving on 65 catches. All 497 of them are after the catch. I've never seen anything like that before. Source: http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/stats/_/name/buf/buffalo-bills
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Spiller has 159 YAC and 123 receiving yards. A lot of catches behind the LOS for both of them.
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 24, 2014 Author Posted December 24, 2014 Spiller has 159 YAC and 123 receiving yards. A lot of catches behind the LOS for both of them. Spiller didn't get to me as much, as his sample size is so much smaller, but that really does speak to how our backs are used in this offense.
Gray Beard Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 there's this thing called a wheel route, where the running back circles wide around the end and is wide open. maybe next year. of course, that takes more than 1 second to develop, which means Orton has already either hit the ground or thrown the ball away.
The Wiz Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 there's this thing called a wheel route, where the running back circles wide around the end and is wide open. maybe next year. of course, that takes more than 1 second to develop, which means Orton has already either hit the ground or thrown the ball away. Or picked a different receiver to throw it to before the snap.
FireChan Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 there's this thing called a wheel route, where the running back circles wide around the end and is wide open. maybe next year. of course, that takes more than 1 second to develop, which means Orton has already either hit the ground or thrown the ball away. Funny you say that, because that was the big gainer by Bryce Brown 2 weeks ago.
1B4IDie Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) According to this site Fred Jackson has 596 YAC and 497 Receiving yards. which is actually what I was expecting. receiving yards takin into consideration tackle for a loss. Pure YAC recording does not. http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/yards-after-the-catch/2014/ I.e. you can catch the Balls 4 yards behind the LOS run for two and that +2 YAC but -2 Receiving yards. Edited December 24, 2014 by Why So Serious?
K-9 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Funny you say that, because that was the big gainer by Bryce Brown 2 weeks ago. Bryce Brown was split wide left and ran a go route if it's the big play vs. Green Bay we're talking about. GO BILLS!!!
FireChan Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Bryce Brown was split wide left and ran a go route if it's the big play vs. Green Bay we're talking about. GO BILLS!!! Damnit.
mountainwampus Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 This is the product of a very unsophisticated offense, that runs the same plays and routes over and over again. It's been screen passes and routes to the flat, nothing else for RBs. Spiller is especially hurt by the simple-minded use of RBs in the passing game.
NoSaint Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Spiller didn't get to me as much, as his sample size is so much smaller, but that really does speak to how our backs are used in this offense. Most backs are like that- catches come at or behind the LOS Bryce Brown was split wide left and ran a go route if it's the big play vs. Green Bay we're talking about. GO BILLS!!! Which we've, oddly enough, run with him a few times. Was surprised to see it, yet alone more than once
K-9 Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 ... Which we've, oddly enough, run with him a few times. Was surprised to see it, yet alone more than once Too bad Orton threw a pop fly on that one. 26CornerBlitz put it best when he said Brown could have called for a fair catch on that pass. GO BILLS!!!
boyst Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 I honestly believe Fred Jackson is worthy of the NFL HOF. The guy has done everything possible at the position for a very long time and has been proving everyone wrong all along. If he can get a Super Bowl ring it will help, but the guy has been the best RB in the league for the last 7 years.
SBUffalo Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 This is nothing. Demarco Murray had 474 YAC but just 395 yards.
Alaska Darin Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 Too bad Orton threw a pop fly on that one. 26CornerBlitz put it best when he said Brown could have called for a fair catch on that pass. GO BILLS!!! That would have been a TD if Brown had just followed his blocks instead of turning back to the middle of the field.
K-9 Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 That would have been a TD if Brown had just followed his blocks instead of turning back to the middle of the field. Yep. In spite of the fly ball pass from Orton. I don't think Brown is the most instinctive of RBs, I'll just leave it at that. GO BILLS!!!
YoloinOhio Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 (edited) Yep. In spite of the fly ball pass from Orton. I don't think Brown is the most instinctive of RBs, I'll just leave it at that. GO BILLS!!! me neither. Color me unimpressed. He's JAG. Backup quality. I would like a more instinctive, explosive power RB drafted/signed this year in place of Spiller. Fred stays too. His role is Boss. Edited December 25, 2014 by YoloinOhio
1B4IDie Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 This is nothing. Demarco Murray had 474 YAC but just 395 yards. see above.
FireChan Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 me neither. Color me unimpressed. He's JAG. Backup quality. I would like a more instinctive, explosive power RB drafted/signed this year in place of Spiller. Fred stays too. His role is Boss. Brown is a good 10 carry guy to me. A change of pace. But he's really young. Who knows what he could become if he works on his game.
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2014 Posted December 25, 2014 I honestly believe Fred Jackson is worthy of the NFL HOF. The guy has done everything possible at the position for a very long time and has been proving everyone wrong all along. If he can get a Super Bowl ring it will help, but the guy has been the best RB in the league for the last 7 years. If he wouldn't have wasted 3 or 4 years playing in NFL Europe and then as a backup on the Bills, he likely would have over 10,000 yards rushing and would be approaching Thurman-like numbers...I too have wondered just what type of career stats he would have put up if he was utilized more and not always basically an after thought as the Bills tried to draft 3 RB's in the 1st round to replace him...
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