Agent 91 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Yup. They are now working on Glenn, Wood, EJ. Our offensive coaches are awful. He's going to be a great value fantasy pick when he is on the Saints or Eagles. True indeed on point 1. And if they stick add Watkins and whom ever we draft next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Spiller started one of his three years. 1.5 yards. Jackson was having a MVP year and got hurt. Spiller was awesome the 2nd half of 2011 and great in 2012. Weird to have a coach get the most out of 2 rbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Thanks for that well thought out response. At least now I know where you're coming from. As far as the quote above: 11/11/12 Patsies 37 Bills 31 11/25/12 Colts 20 Bills 13 9/25/11 Bills 34 Patsies 31 10/2/11 Bengals 23 Bills 20 10/7/10 Bears 22 Bills 19 11/28/2010 Stealers 19 Bills 16 OT Bills have been playing good teams close for years and years. Different would be winning more than losing these games. Bills are 3-4 in games this year decided by a TD or less. That's slighly better than we've been doing throughout this now 15 year run. I saw an article by Chris Brown about this 2 years ago where he said the winning % was .380 or so. 8 wins is more than we've had in 10 years so good for Doug. I won't hate it if Coach Marrone stays as long as changes are made in the coaching staff on the offensive side of the football. True, we have had competition. But there's a flip side. I think we've got blown out once (14+ point loss) in Marrone's tenure. I would argue that that's pretty darn abnormal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Spiller started one of his three years. and averaged how many yards per carry the year and a half he started? (5.2 and 6) Your comparison doesn't work Edited December 23, 2014 by kr632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiostyle Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Spiller belongs in space. Hopefully next season....he can "blow up" "in space" for another team. Not sure because of the use of quotes what the subtext is here. Are you implying that we should launch Spiller into space, in a capsule that is destined to explode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Spiller will blossom under a OC who knows how to utilize the talents and assets of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) True, we have had competition. But there's a flip side. I think we've got blown out once (14+ point loss) in Marrone's tenure. I would argue that that's pretty darn abnormal. A little fact checking shows that actually there have been 4: 10/27/2013 Saints 35 Bills 17 12/08/2013 Bucs 27 Bills 6 12/29/2013 Patsies 34 Bills 20 10/12/2014 Patsies 37 Bills 22 Plus 4 more by >12 8 out of our 17 losses have been by 12+ Edited December 24, 2014 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 A little fact checking shows that actually there have been 4: 10/27/2013 Saints 35 Bills 17 12/08/2013 Bucs 27 Bills 6 12/29/2013 Patsies 34 Bills 20 10/12/2014 Patsies 37 Bills 22 Plus 4 more by >12 8 out of our 17 losses have been by 12+ Uh oh. How about 20+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) Uh oh. How about 20+? LOL A 1 point loss counts as much in the standings as 20+ point loss does. Edited December 24, 2014 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 LOL A 1 point loss counts as much in the standings as 20+ point loss does. I know that. I guess my overarching point is that there have only been a few games where I felt like it was hopeless to try to win with Marrone. With Chan, they were many games I turned off. I've only turned off one in Marrone's tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I keep hearing about this "game breaking speed" Spiller supposedly has but I have not once witnessed it in his career. He's had some nice runs and has some quickness. But he is not a home run threat. He has never in his career taken a ball the length of the field for a TD like Hill did last night for Cincy. He gets 40 yards and gets caught from behind (maybe he gets winded). Spiller is, by far, the most over rated player in the history of the Buffalo Bills (with the possible exception of Doug Flutie). Spiller has never been a game changer and has never demonstrated being worthy of a top 10 pick. He had 1 tremendous season. There are countless UDFAs who have put up better production than Spiller. Seems like a nice kid. Not real bright and not really the weapon he was purported to me. Good Riddance to him. Yeah, Flutie was overhyped. All he did was win, and you know how we hate that around here. Wow, get a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 What is best for Spiller schematically may not be best for the team if wins and losses matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) i can't remember a play where he's made guys miss. maybe somebody can find one, but my overall impression of him after all these years, is a RB who has very good north / south speed if he can get his hips squared, and has little in his way. his confidence in his ability to beat defenders to the corner in order to do that, sometimes makes him miss a more direct path upfield. but in his defense, when he doesn't 'feel' that opening, he's only trying his best to make a play. with that trait, he could become a very useful 'one cut' RB in an offense that likes to run outside zone - he'd just have to learn how to commit to his first instinct. unfortunately for CJ, we don't have the O linemen to run that effectively. too bad.. it would really complement our horizontal passing game. backfiled motion one way.. linemen moving the other way.. receivers on the second level dragging LBs away from cut back lanes.. with Spiller jetting vertical through all that shimmy-shakin.. yep.. could be sweet. Edited December 24, 2014 by BackInDaDay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Spiller in a Chip Kelly offense? That could be ... sick. Got your popcorn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 You is a topic startin' motha. Yeah, there's another new one also. (LATP = Look At Tipster Post). Listen you re-editing imbecile, you're a joke, beat it. FireChan is ok...[redacted by mods] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Whoever told Spiller he was capable of running outside in the NFL ruined his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 CJ's durability is a major concern (no not the colar bone), he's also got something tweeked or injured. Can't pick up blitz to save his life in a word clueless, poor hand out of the backfield, has become a fumbler. Not a 20 carry a game guy Chan was right all along - It's a shame because he seems like a great dude and likes being here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 Yeah, there's another new one also. (LATP = Look At Tipster Post). FireChan is ok... Nope, you did find. Thanks for your input. Anything else on your mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I expect him to have a big season on his new team next season. spiller didnt get any dumber because of morrone, he was already dumb. Dumb players make dumb plays and spiller isnt getting any faster either. He was a "bust" his first season and a half, then looked "great" for a season and a half, and has now looked worse than ever for 2 straight seasons. Hes also fragile. Good luck to him but glad hes leaving. i wont miss his lack of awareness, ball skills, fumbles, bad blocks, injuries and runs for -3. will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I saw Cinci split their rb out wide and run a cross route with him for a td. Complete mismatch for a LB. We never do that. We never do what? Line up or RB as a WR or score a touchdown? Great post. The crazy group of people defend Hackett say things like if he had Tom Brady, he'd be a great coach. Good coaches elevate the talent they have. Hackett/ Marrone have gotten less out of their offensive talent. So true....fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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