BmarvB Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 They're sitting back watching right now and gathering all the information they need to start making decisions. Changes will start from the top down as they start working in their own people.
PromoTheRobot Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Yes absolutely as their records as owners are fine examples to follow. Good grief is it that unusual to think a new owner might have something to say when his newly purchased team gets themselves eliminated from the playoff hunt by being manhandled by a two win team? No. Not at all. Good owners do not flap their gums about the team they own. They take care of business inside, not out.
Captain Hindsight Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 No. Not at all. Good owners do not flap their gums about the team they own. They take care of business inside, not out. This^ We will know by next tueday what Terry thinks
Dragonborn10 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Vocal owners - Jerry Jones, Arthur Blank, and Daniel Snyder Silent owners - Mara, Rooney, Paul Allen I will take peace and quiet from my owner thank you very much
TheFunPolice Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 I posted it elsewhere, but I will post it here as well, as it is relevant. We woke up one morning just over a year ago and found out (after a nice win) that Darcy AND the head coach were fired. Then there was a press conference that morning with two Sabres icons: LaFontaine and Ted Nolan. NOBODY (and I mean freaking NOBODY) was hinting at that. Yes, there were reports that Darcy could be out, but nobody reported anything even close to what happened. Because if they did, they would have been mocked and ridiculed because it sounded like fantasy land. For those who are primarily Bills fans, it would be a little bit like waking up tomorrow and finding out that Marrone and Whaley were gone, Wade Phillips was hired as interim HC, and Bill Polian was in as President of Football Ops and would find and hire his GM, who would decide on Wade long-term. It was that shocking. Nolan's departure here was BITTER and ugly. Pat was somewhere in the league offices. There was no President of Hockey Operations. My point? The Pegulas obviously lined that all up, got everything in order, and then pulled the trigger. Russ is not going to be ordering everyone around over there soon. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see a President of Football Operations come in with Russ as President of Business Operations, both reporting to Kim, with Whaley staying on as GM and Marrone as HC but with a big $$ OC brought in. Marrone would be dumb to fight it, since it could only help him succeed. If he did, we need only point to Lafontaine's short tenure here as evidence that the Pegulas run their teams.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Not sure what to make of the fact that they have said very little following the purchase of the franchise. I guess they are going to let the season close out and then do whatever it is they are going to do. The reality is that if they are going to make any significant changes they likely need to do so relatively quickly in order to have preparation time for the draft. Their MO is to be quiet, so not surprised, hopefully they take a run at Harbaugh.
K-9 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 I posted it elsewhere, but I will post it here as well, as it is relevant. We woke up one morning just over a year ago and found out (after a nice win) that Darcy AND the head coach were fired. Then there was a press conference that morning with two Sabres icons: LaFontaine and Ted Nolan. NOBODY (and I mean freaking NOBODY) was hinting at that. Yes, there were reports that Darcy could be out, but nobody reported anything even close to what happened. Because if they did, they would have been mocked and ridiculed because it sounded like fantasy land. For those who are primarily Bills fans, it would be a little bit like waking up tomorrow and finding out that Marrone and Whaley were gone, Wade Phillips was hired as interim HC, and Bill Polian was in as President of Football Ops and would find and hire his GM, who would decide on Wade long-term. It was that shocking. Nolan's departure here was BITTER and ugly. Pat was somewhere in the league offices. There was no President of Hockey Operations. My point? The Pegulas obviously lined that all up, got everything in order, and then pulled the trigger. Russ is not going to be ordering everyone around over there soon. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see a President of Football Operations come in with Russ as President of Business Operations, both reporting to Kim, with Whaley staying on as GM and Marrone as HC but with a big $$ OC brought in. Marrone would be dumb to fight it, since it could only help him succeed. If he did, we need only point to Lafontaine's short tenure here as evidence that the Pegulas run their teams. Given how the LaFontaine hire was hatched aboard Pegula's yacht down in FLA, I wonder who he's had aboard as a guest recently. Hmm. Anyway, GREAT point about the silence with which Pegula has done things in the past. I'll bet nobody in the local media will scoop his first major move with the Bills, either. GO BILLS!!!
YoloinOhio Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 I posted it elsewhere, but I will post it here as well, as it is relevant. We woke up one morning just over a year ago and found out (after a nice win) that Darcy AND the head coach were fired. Then there was a press conference that morning with two Sabres icons: LaFontaine and Ted Nolan. NOBODY (and I mean freaking NOBODY) was hinting at that. Yes, there were reports that Darcy could be out, but nobody reported anything even close to what happened. Because if they did, they would have been mocked and ridiculed because it sounded like fantasy land. For those who are primarily Bills fans, it would be a little bit like waking up tomorrow and finding out that Marrone and Whaley were gone, Wade Phillips was hired as interim HC, and Bill Polian was in as President of Football Ops and would find and hire his GM, who would decide on Wade long-term. It was that shocking. Nolan's departure here was BITTER and ugly. Pat was somewhere in the league offices. There was no President of Hockey Operations. My point? The Pegulas obviously lined that all up, got everything in order, and then pulled the trigger. Russ is not going to be ordering everyone around over there soon. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see a President of Football Operations come in with Russ as President of Business Operations, both reporting to Kim, with Whaley staying on as GM and Marrone as HC but with a big $$ OC brought in. Marrone would be dumb to fight it, since it could only help him succeed. If he did, we need only point to Lafontaine's short tenure here as evidence that the Pegulas run their teams. interesting. Thanks for the analogies as I don't really follow the Sabres. It is a good point about guys like Polian and Wade, who had issues at one time with Ralph but none of that matters now. Not saying I am advocating for either one, just that we really don't know what to expect.
BillsFanM.D. Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 "Silent" owners? Good. This is a competitive league. I'd rather have someone with a bit of a poker face pulling the strings. No thanks to the Dan Snyder approach. Let's give the owners a chance to figure this out. I imagine there has to be a learning curve with a billion dollar purchase...and the Pegulas bought the team two months ago. I.e. less than 10 weeks. Let's not forget the alternatives that were out there including those who were less than Buffalo friendly. The albatross that was the threat of moving no longer exists. This is a great time to be a Bills fan and the Pegulas (and Ralph) are the primary reasons. As for the team, I'm not only hopeful for the future; I'm also very thankful that they have a future in Buffalo.
MarkAF43 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 ok, ok I'll say it...... Terry and Kim are cheap.
Mark80 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Terry specifically said in an interview that he was uncomfortable being the center of attention. He also stated that he hated taking questions from the media as the Sabres owner especially when he was constantly being asked about Ruff, Regier, Rolston, and LaFontaine and he consciously became less accessible to the media because of it. I chalk it up to those two things and those two things only. Edited December 23, 2014 by Mark80
klos63 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) It think it is safe to assume that they did not want to interfere with the day to day business of operations especially since the Bills were doing OK and staying competitive for a playoff spot. I suspect that if the season went off the rails weeks ago, that we would have seen more activity from the Pegula's and gotten a glimpse at the plan. With the end of the season quickly approaching and the playoff hopes out the window, I would imagine we will start to see information trickling out and speculation to begin about potential changes and moves. you mean rumors. I don't think we will hear anything from ownership until it's finalized. Edited December 23, 2014 by klos63
CodeMonkey Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 I think they knew well enough to stay out of things while a season was underway, particularly since the Bills showed improvement. Now that the season is effectively over, I would imagine we'll soon find out what changes are coming (i.e., consultant, etc.). Exactly, in my opinion. Pegula is smart enough to realize what he doesn't know regarding professional football and will wait to hear from a consultant that he trusts before saying or doing much more than the PR stuff he has done to this point. People used to B word about how much Mr. Wilson "meddled", now those same people seem to want Mr. Pegula to do that same thing.
plenzmd1 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Silent... But deadly lets hope they are dealing it too
papazoid Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 the first order of business for the Pegula's will be to hire a football "czar". that person will determine the fate of the two doug's. whaley and marrone will probably get most if not all of next season to prove themselves.
BuffaloBill Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 No. Not at all. Good owners do not flap their gums about the team they own. They take care of business inside, not out. While we hate the team let's look to Kraft as an owner who has got it right. Kraft is not as vocal as Jones or Snyder but does make his presence known. He also has, as judged by results, staffed his organization with the right people. It is my sincere hope that Terry and Kim do find this balance and mix. There is no need to be a loudmouth owner but there are other examples of success that show they also do not need to be silent. Keep in mind they may remain silent through this offseason also and make no changes with the Bills. I believe that there is a better than even chance this happens. If so, it is my opinion, worth only the Internet space it is conveyed in, that they are then throwing away a season with a HC who has no business being one. Honestly, of all of the coaches we have had over this 15 years of ineptness I would have to say Marrone is the worst. He had the most talent of any roster over that 15 year stretch and simply wasted it. I get it that he was not lucky enough to have the QB he might have hoped for but decisions with the O-line and his OC both within his span of control were atrocious. His benching of Urbick was plain stupid and his decision to play pears at G was even more so. I know Jauron is probably neck in neck by the way but I do believe that even skeletor would have eeked out more wins with this roster.
bigK14094 Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Pegula hired a big time consultant in order to buy the Bills, he will do the same on the management of the business. At the scale he operates at, nobody can be an expert in everything. Still, what might transpire is interesting to say the least, and I wonder who a good consultant might be. The Pegula's got it done on the purchase, I am guessing they will do the same on the team management side. The lack of long term success is troubling however, and the real question is whether there is something systemic in the Bills organization that has caused the 15 year playoff drought. I, for one, think the pending sale/move of the team because of an octagenarian owner was a disincentive to talent to come here. Thats gone now, and I think better days are ahead. As far as consultants in general though, we had a saying "A consultant tells you what time it is with your own clock" So, they might not have a lot to offer...we'll see. Edited December 23, 2014 by bigK14094
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 Actions speak louder than words..... CBF
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