Talley56 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I know a lot of people are sick of hearing the ref bashing but that's not what I'm doing I am just baffled by this particular call. Earlier in the 3rd Qtr today Derek Carr launches a pass way out of bounds from inside the pocket facing pressure and the ball was no where near a receiver. I ask, how was this any different than the intentional grounding called on us against Miami that was ruled a safety? Not sure who all caught that from today's game as it sounded like nothing was really said about it but it left some people in our Bills bar questioning it. Anyone know why these were called differently? Again, not dwelling on the officiating, just confused by this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I know a lot of people are sick of hearing the ref bashing but that's not what I'm doing I am just baffled by this particular call. Earlier in the 3rd Qtr today Derek Carr launches a pass way out of bounds from inside the pocket facing pressure and the ball was no where near a receiver. I ask, how was this any different than the intentional grounding called on us against Miami that was ruled a safety? Not sure who all caught that from today's game as it sounded like nothing was really said about it but it left some people in our Bills bar questioning it. Anyone know why these were called differently? Again, not dwelling on the officiating, just confused by this one. No one knows. It seems totally random and varies by the individual judgment of refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumblefish Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 it when I lay down and take a nap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Why isn't spiking the ball intentional grounding? Why can a holder in college football take the snap with a knee on the ground and get up and run a fake FG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumblefish Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 why do birds suddenly appear, every time you are near, because they need a target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Why isn't spiking the ball intentional grounding? Why can a holder in college football take the snap with a knee on the ground and get up and run a fake FG? Darn rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandemonium Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Why isn't spiking the ball intentional grounding? Why can a holder in college football take the snap with a knee on the ground and get up and run a fake FG? Regarding the spike, I've wondered before if it could be considered intentional grounding depending on he formation. For example, if there's a tight end on the line or a running back in the backfield it's not IG because those players are considered eligible receivers in the area, but in a five wideout set could it be called IG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Spiking the ball isn't because the QB isn't in imminent danger of being sacked. But I said in the shout box during the game that Carr should have been called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Well, in the Bills case it's been the front office for the better part of 50+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagentqb Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Good question - they were both identical plays. Both in the pocket and the ball was not near an eligible receiver. I'm going with the notion that Carr's attempt was intentional grounding by rule but not called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyj001 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Regarding the spike, I've wondered before if it could be considered intentional grounding depending on he formation. For example, if there's a tight end on the line or a running back in the backfield it's not IG because those players are considered eligible receivers in the area, but in a five wideout set could it be called IG? The QB has to be under center for it not to be intentional grounding, it is also supposed to be immediatly spiked straight down, if these two items are met it is a clock stopping play, all others would be intentional grounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Darn rules. It's odd that there are just accepted exceptions to the rules. The college holder really gets me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 It's throwing the ball to a point where there is no eligible receiver. Oh wait, sorry, I though this was still the 1970s before the 'get it right' crowd started micro-managing the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I know a lot of people are sick of hearing the ref bashing but that's not what I'm doing I am just baffled by this particular call. Earlier in the 3rd Qtr today Derek Carr launches a pass way out of bounds from inside the pocket facing pressure and the ball was no where near a receiver. I ask, how was this any different than the intentional grounding called on us against Miami that was ruled a safety? Not sure who all caught that from today's game as it sounded like nothing was really said about it but it left some people in our Bills bar questioning it. Anyone know why these were called differently? Again, not dwelling on the officiating, just confused by this one. A lot of people, me included, thought that was grounding too. I was yelling at the television. Friggin refs didn't hear me.. I could see no reason why that shouldn't have been grounding. Marrone should have made a case. I don't know if he did or not. If the QB is between the tackles and he is under pressure and throws an obvious uncatchable ball (not close to any receiver) then it should be grounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 It's odd that there are just accepted exceptions to the rules. The college holder really gets me. It's similar to defining who is allowed to/has to line up on the line vs those in the backfield. Not everyone can do 'either.' But...If it's defined...it's ok in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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