FireChan Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 You think so? He's so good that the Bears have to bribe teams to take him off their hands. Try this. Imagine Cutler as a Bills QB and look at his record. How do you feel about him now? That we'd be at least one more win higher than we are now.
billsfan_34 Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 There is and will always be this dark cloud around Cutler. The Bills have done a really nice job bringing in specific players that fit the mold this team is looking for to take the next step. I would be shocked if we went after him. The price tag is steep and the reward isnt worth the risk. I think that is what it will boil down too. Other teams out there will pony up for him and possible be lured by a high draft pick, I say let them have him.
rumblefish Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) even if the Bear's gave the Bills their next 2 first round picks, and picked up half of Cutlers salary, maybe it would b a yes in my head my gut says NO, and my gut is usually 99% right Edited December 20, 2014 by rumblefish
ProcessAccepted Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 hes better than any QB we've had since #12. He would instantly make is better on offense. With that said, I would rather have many other QBs that may be available. But add in maybe a 3rd or 4th round pick and it's intriguing. Doug Flutie was way better.
aristocrat Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 a possibility but very difficult, which is why you don't see it very often. hey i'm just completely speculating but i'm sure whaley is thinking of various scenarios and will be at least in on the trade talks. Whaley can ask for the moon and the bears can say no.
YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 I still can't wrap my head around the SJ13 and Brown trades but have a feeling that in the end whatever pick we were going to get for Stevie ends up in Philly next year. probably not - which is why Whaley wanted brown inactive for as long as possible this season. Without knowing the production qualifiers exactly, Stevie has played all year, brown has only played 7 games and shared carries. I don't think he has any TDs. This is a good breakdown of the trade. It is confusing. But we should have 7-8 draft picks this year with Tampa's 5th and the pick for Brown moving to next yr. http://blogs.buffalobills.com/tag/2015-nfl-draft/
The Jokeman Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) hey i'm just completely speculating but i'm sure whaley is thinking of various scenarios and will be at least in on the trade talks. Whaley can ask for the moon and the bears can say no. Whaley and this team talked about bringing in a winning culture. I don't thinking adding a guy like Cutler is going to do that. I know many fans don't want to hear it but based on what the market has available I think Orton/Manuel and a low risk guy is the best plan for 2015 as long as we keep this D together and add a veteran or two to help the offense. As to me the only 2 QBs to me worth pursing this offseason would be Sam Bradford or Eli Manning but doubt either one would truly be available and/or the cost would be too much. Edited December 20, 2014 by The Jokeman
Ted William's frozen head Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Hell no. I was thinking I'd take him for their first --- no, I'm not serious, but that's what it would take if I was Whaley. Seriously, I think a first round pick thrown in the deal might make it worthwhile. It'll never happen, though.
The Jokeman Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 probably not - which is why Whaley wanted brown inactive for as long as possible this season. Without knowing the production qualifiers exactly, Stevie has played all year, brown has only played 7 games and shared carries. I don't think he has any TDs. This is a good breakdown of the trade. It is confusing. But we should have 7-8 draft picks this year with Tampa's 5th and the pick for Brown moving to next yr. http://blogs.buffalo...2015-nfl-draft/ Thanks for the post. That makes it a little more clearer except for the stats Brown has to hit to determine what pick we ultimately give up for him.
YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Thanks for the post. That makes it a little more clearer except for the stats Brown has to hit to determine what pick we ultimately give up for him. i am not sure if/when that info is released. More likely that we just find out where the picks land and come to the conclusion on who hit what qualifier.
rumblefish Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 if I was Whaley, I would be thinking, you can dress up a pig in a tuxedo, but it is still a pig
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Haha. The hype Cutler gets is unreal. The myth that Cutler will be better and more mature on his 3rd time is becoming as good as Orton becoming a franchise qb on his 5th. Teams don't get rid of good Qbs unless there are major issues. Cutler is a lot closer to Fitz than Brady. Edited December 20, 2014 by C.Biscuit97
PromoTheRobot Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 That we'd be at least one more win higher than we are now. You really need to explain that leap of logic since Cutler is 5-9 and riding the pine this week. Last I checked the Bills are 8-6.
RCOHEN13 Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Cutler is by far and away the best QB available this offseason. Even if we had a 1st rounder, it would be late teens and only QB with elite talent and has right attitude is Marriota. And even with Marriota.... Would we really want to endure a rookie QB with the D we will have???? We need basically a modern day (more pass orientared) version on Trent Dlifer was to that Ravens SB squad. Cutler may have his question marks but if he came here and knows its his last shot at "making it" and with tough coach like Marrone (hopefully a new OC) who Jay can actually learn from. Not some doof he;s practically same age as in Hackett. Even though are skill position players are not Forte, Bennett, Jeffery and Marshall.. Not many teams do but he do have A LOT of talent outside and hopefully we add another target via FA or draft. With our D, i'd take a guy like Cutler who when is on... is on fire. I know he's stunk this yr and hopefully he learns from it and has chip on his shoulder. If we were to get compensated as well with let's say a 3rd???? i'd take it in a second and trade that 3rd and our 4th and try and get another 2nd rounder. This team has VERY few holes... Problem is, our biggest hole is half the battle... a darn QB! u cant be a contender with what we got and from what will be out there, Cutler is the best. We trade for Jay, sign FA and draft OL in 2nd or 3rd and re-sign Hughes and extend Marcel (at worst, exercise team option on him even tho it may cause holdout).
White Linen Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 You think so? He's so good that the Bears have to bribe teams to take him off their hands. Try this. Imagine Cutler as a Bills QB and look at his record. How do you feel about him now? I totally understand what you're saying but I think we can agree our team is ready to win now. Our options our likely to be very limited to upgrade the QB position. I think most would agree that it's the QB position that's keeping us from being a playoff team (which of course we're still not out of), but i'm sure you understand what I mean. I'm not in love with Cutler but given our limited options unfortunately we have to explore this. How would you feel about Orton and EJ fighting for the job next year?
FireChan Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 You really need to explain that leap of logic since Cutler is 5-9 and riding the pine this week. Last I checked the Bills are 8-6. I misread your post. But you need to explain your leap of logic on "how we feel" about Cutler if we were 5-9. Makes little sense to me, mostly because, like you said, we aren't 5-9.
run dat back Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 Jay Cutler is a loser. He's lost everywhere he's been. Now, why, exactly, would you trade for him? This. The only reason people rate him is because of the mediocrity around the league that makes him look better by comparison.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 This won't happen. I think the more likely scenario is that they have to end up cutting him and eating the dead money.
aristocrat Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 This won't happen. I think the more likely scenario is that they have to end up cutting him and eating the dead money. thats a ton of money to eat. It's essentially a two year deal right? You bring him in with the right oc who can handle him and not make him do much. If they are offering a 2nd rounder I'd bite on that to grab a qb there or some o line help or a te. It's a crazy idea but something crazy is going to happen with this deal. We have the offensive weapons and the defense
Big C Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 I totally understand what you're saying but I think we can agree our team is ready to win now. Our options our likely to be very limited to upgrade the QB position. I think most would agree that it's the QB position that's keeping us from being a playoff team (which of course we're still not out of), but i'm sure you understand what I mean. I'm not in love with Cutler but given our limited options unfortunately we have to explore this. How would you feel about Orton and EJ fighting for the job next year? The Bears have been ready to win now for years.
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