thewildrabbit Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 The Packers receivers did uncharacteristically drop 8 passes, and Rodgers was about as wild as Orton in the first quarter. Still, i think the Bills are fielding the very best defense in their history. This considering all the NFL rule changes to allow the offense more big passing plays. Jim Schwartz and his staff are making the so many great game plans, game calls to shut down some of the very best QB's in the league.
CardinalScotts Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 impossible all our coaches are idiots...if it goes wrong Marrone's fault if it goes right Marrone had nothing to do with it! The Packers receivers did uncharacteristically drop 8 passes, and Rodgers was about as wild as Orton in the first quarter. Still, i think the Bills are fielding the very best defense in their history. This considering all the NFL rule changes to allow the offense more big passing plays. Jim Schwartz and his staff are making the so many great game plans, game calls to shut down some of the very best QB's in the league. \ ya guys drop passes....i rewatched the game last night.....many of the drops were behind the reciever
Magox Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 I don't agree with the "he was watching his eyes!" comments. First, QB's look off WR's all of the time. If Rodgers had made the correct read and done that in this case, it was an easy TD to the streaking WR. Nope, Rambo clearly made the right read, watched his eyes the whole time and made the play. Simple as that.
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Pretty sure Manning still got a W against us... Yup. And Brady.
Acantha Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Nope, Rambo clearly made the right read, watched his eyes the whole time and made the play. Simple as that. Nope. Jumped to the middle of the field pre-snap. Simple as that.
yungmack Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Take notice on the play where Rambo cut in front of the receiver to intercept the ball...On that play, Rogers missed a wide open receiver at the top of the screen who looks like he would have scored 6. How come Rogers isn't being called out for throwing to the wrong guy? I guess elite quarterbacks make bad decisions too. I From the All 22, it's apparent Williams is going to intersect with him in about two steps and clobber him. On the in-game close up replay, it's clear Nelson sees Williams coming just before the ball gets there. The Bills D was hitting those guys all game long, and I believe Nelson's drop had as much to do with his peek at Williams as anything else. Of course, I meant the deep ball play to Nelson, not this one. Edited December 19, 2014 by yungmack
K-9 Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 What do you guys suppose Robey is communicating to Rambo pre-snap? I have a hunch he's letting Rambo know Cobb is his responsibility. I think Graham and/or Robey may have missed their assignments; Graham plays it like he's expecting help over the top. Helluva play by Rambo.
Dan Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Take notice on the play where Rambo cut in front of the receiver to intercept the ball...On that play, Rogers missed a wide open receiver at the top of the screen who looks like he would have scored 6. How come Rogers isn't being called out for throwing to the wrong guy? I guess elite quarterbacks make bad decisions too. I This play, IMO, is an example of great defense. Rodgers, like all good QBs, reads the defense pre-snap and sees the saftey on the right side of the field. So, he immediately thinks he has the deep crossing pattern open. Our slot DB (not sure who that is) recognizes something in the play an signals to the safety (Rambo) just prior to the snap. He then drops the receiver in coverage and signals again to Rambo, just as Rambo is beaking to get there. Nelson is running free at the top because the same DB never picked him up... had Rodgers seen that its and easy completion. But, when playing a defense with our pass rush, you often don't have time to look around. And, in fact, just as Rodgers steps up and throws, Hughes (I think its him) is circling back to knock him out. So, as I see it, this is a great example of the defense knowing exactly what GB wanted to do and disguising their coverage just enough to let them think they can do it. And, of course, Rambo making an awesome play on the ball. edit: I would also add that the line blocked for a crossing pattern to the left, as well. Notice there's a wall of people to Rodgers right and a huge passing lane to his left. Good offenses create passing lanes as well as running lanes (something never seen in our offense). This play was clearly designed for the deep crossing pattern and the Bills D read it and played it perfectly. Edited December 19, 2014 by Dan
NoSaint Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 What do you guys suppose Robey is communicating to Rambo pre-snap? I have a hunch he's letting Rambo know Cobb is his responsibility. I think Graham and/or Robey may have missed their assignments; Graham plays it like he's expecting help over the top. Helluva play by Rambo. Might've even been robey incorrectly asking for help - we probably won't ever know what the combo for the 3 should've been
K-9 Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Might've even been robey incorrectly asking for help - we probably won't ever know what the combo for the 3 should've been Good point about Robey. It looks like a combination defense with Gilmore playing man but you usually don't play a combination like that with only one CB being in man coverage. If I had to guess, I'd say Graham misplayed it. Hard to tell sometimes. Regardless, Nelson never should have been left alone. GO BILLS!!!
TSOL Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Good point about Robey. It looks like a combination defense with Gilmore playing man but you usually don't play a combination like that with only one CB being in man coverage. If I had to guess, I'd say Graham misplayed it. Hard to tell sometimes. Regardless, Nelson never should have been left alone. GO BILLS!!! Youve got tha all 22 and you still cant tell what defense theyre in. And you say Manuel is slow... I kid, i kid I read somewhere that we were out of position on that play b/c it was one of the only times in the game where we were trying some kind of defensive trickery. Wasnt blown coverage at all, was designed that way Edited December 19, 2014 by mastershake
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Sorry, Jay. If this was supposed to somehow have me stand corrected, I don't. So I'm not sure why you posted this link for me when others in the thread asked for further clarification. I don't feel I need it, but thanks anyway. GO BILLS!!! It was a visual depiction of what you described, not a correction in any way. Edited December 19, 2014 by JÂy RÛßeÒ
K-9 Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Youve got tha all 22 and you still cant tell what defense theyre in. And you say Manuel is slow... LOL! They're in a cover-1 man-combo from the looks of it. We're trying to figure out which DB didn't get the memo. GO BILLS!!! It was a visual depiction of what you described, not a correction in any way. I stand corrected. GO BILLS!!!
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Edit: I'll also add a kudos to Robey who it appears was the one to recognize the play and communicate with Rambo. I have noticed Robey do this a lot. He is identifying things, and constantly making calls and getting people in the right position. As a nickel, he seems to be the QB of the entire secondary.
TSOL Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 LOL! They're in a cover-1 man-combo from the looks of it. We're trying to figure out which DB didn't get the memo. GO BILLS!!! I stand corrected. GO BILLS!!! Right on, im gonna try an stop being such a wiseass on here, its my only skill though. Not an X's and O's guy but love reading others takes on here
Whack 'Em Williams Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Nope, Rambo clearly made the right read, watched his eyes the whole time and made the play. Simple as that. Ramobo!!
YoloinOhio Posted December 19, 2014 Author Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) I have noticed Robey do this a lot. He is identifying things, and constantly making calls and getting people in the right position. As a nickel, he seems to be the QB of the entire secondary. i saw someone in the national media (believe it or not) point out that the Bills are very fortunate to have a guy like Robey who can cover those little slot guys. He said many teams just don't have that guy because DB depth is so low across the league. Edited December 19, 2014 by YoloinOhio
machine gun kelly Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 By effectively rushing 4 and dropping 7 into coverage. Yes but that's a gross over simplification. Read the article again on how they read what the Packers call, and then how to match that back 7 to their 3 wide. The prep on Schwartz for this game is impressive. Let's hope he can repeat next week.
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