Kelly the Dog Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Jay wants to stay Well, the Coach Killer probably likes the 100 million he has left on his contract no one else is going to pay. Plus, he probably knows he is lucky that he plays in Chicago, a town known for its citizens getting away with murder.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2014 Author Posted December 18, 2014 Well, the Coach Killer probably likes the 100 million he has left on his contract no one else is going to pay. Plus, he probably knows he is lucky that he plays in Chicago, a town known for its citizens getting away with murder.
FireChan Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) How is going into next year with Orton and EJ a PR nightmare considering Orton didnt even have a camp ? What level is Cutler exactly because the Bears have done everything they could over 6 years and they have not found a way to consistently win with him ? The Bears found a way to win consistently with Orton ? If we finish 10-6 or even 9-7 the goal would be to continue to move forward how does Cutler move this team forward ? The Bears gave him a fantasy team and he took them backward . The Bears at this point have no choice but to stay with Cutler and then at end of next year get rid of the GM ,coach,and Cutler . The bears fired Lovie Smith after a 10-6 season because everyone felt that Cutler was a "stahhhh" and he didnt know what to do with him . Jay Cutler has had more help from a organization than I can recall maybe in the last 20 years and couldnt do anything with it . 4 offensive coordinators several qb coaches until they basically let him pick his own . They kept his college receiver Earl bennett around and then went and got Marshall because he was Cutlers buddy . If if everything is constantly changed and moved around to accommodate you over 6 years and then you still cant get it done the problem is probably you . Cutler moves this team forward because he is better than Orton. That's really all that needs to be said. This "fantasy team" doesn't make any sense. Did they grab a great #1 WR? Sure. However Alshon Jeffrey was a second rounder, it's not like they used a huge contract on him. Bennet was nothing before Cutler. Forte was there before Cutler. I don't understand the "fantasy team." Are we building a fantasy team around Orton because we have Spiller/Fred, a good #1 WR in Sammy and a second rounder in Woods? Does Peyton suck because he "can't get it done" with a fantasy team around him? Would you not want Peyton, because he has some stud WR's and a good rushing attack and a good defense? Edited December 18, 2014 by FireChan
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JC2002 Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Cutler moves this team forward because he is better than Orton. That's really all that needs to be said. This "fantasy team" doesn't make any sense. Did they grab a great #1 WR? Sure. However Alshon Jeffrey was a second rounder, it's not like they used a huge contract on him. Bennett was nothing before Cutler. Forte was there before Cutler. I don't understand the "fantasy team." Are we building a fantasy team around Orton because we have Spiller/Fred, a good #1 WR in Sammy and a second rounder in Woods? Actually Cutler is no better than Orton he just wears a lipstick that you like but hes still a pig . Marshall and Jeffrey are two of the best jump ball catchers in the league and coming into the is season were considered a top 5 receiving tandem , Bennett is pretty much a the game guy he was before he met Cutler , which is a top 15 receiving threat at TE , and Matt Forte is a top ten back . So what about that doesn't make sense ? What else do you need at QB before you can have the responsibility to produce points . We dont if Spiller will be here ? Fred is gonna be 34 old WTF is wrong with you ? How do you equate what we have to the actual pro bowlers the have ?
3rdand12 Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 But Orton won't pass more then 15 yards. If you watch the all-22 you can see our receivers open down the filed all day long. I want a gunslinger to connect with Sammy and Woods. Maybe just after 15 years I'm ready for something different then the 3-4 year rebuilding that never ends and I'm ready to make a move. !@#$ing Brady won't even remember our teams name when he retires. But I get what your saying about Orton but answer me this, truthfully, is he a QB that can take us to a superbowl? Is Cutler ? Truthfully ?
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 I thought Cutler handled himself very well. He seems like he has some class. It was much different than i expected and makes me wonder if the media hasn't created a villain. I know old school rah rah types don't like him. But, lets just say at this point I'm surprised and thought he be a jerk.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2014 Author Posted December 18, 2014 Trestman: 'I've changed my mind... I think we need a spark' (10:02) Moss: 'Bears fans want blood right now' (1:18) Clausen: You don't get a lot of second chances (3:45)
FireChan Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Actually Cutler is no better than Orton he just wears a lipstick that you like but hes still a pig . Marshall and Jeffrey are two of the best jump ball catchers in the league and coming into the is season were considered a top 5 receiving tandem , Bennett is pretty much a the game guy he was before he met Cutler , which is a top 15 receiving threat at TE , and Matt Forte is a top ten back . So what about that doesn't make sense ? What else do you need at QB before you can have the responsibility to produce points . We dont if Spiller will be here ? Fred is gonna be 34 old WTF is wrong with you ? How do you equate what we have to the actual pro bowlers the have ? He is better than Orton. Virtually every statistic as well as the eye test tells me that. Your fantasy team argument makes little sense to me. You try to play it like they're pouring endless amounts of assets into helping Cutler, and not the team. You're also trying to insinuate they hurt the team by getting all these guys for Cutler. Forte wasn't a Pro-Bowler until 2011. He was drafted prior to Cutler being there. Marshall is a great WR, but I think that Sammy will have a very similar career to him. Alshon was a second rounder 3 years ago. Bennet was a nobody in the NFL prior to Cutler, he had 1,500 yards and 9 TD's in his 5 year career before the Bears, numbers that he doubled in 2 years with Cutler, and a little McCown. So explain this to me. They got all this great talent around Cutler, Alshon became a good WR playing with him, Bennet hit career highs in back-to-back seasons, Forte went to a Pro-Bowl with Cutler at the helm. And now, with their horrific defense, they aren't winning games and it's the "fantasy teams'" fault? How about this. Switch teams. Put Cutler on the Bills and Orton on the Bears this season. Do you think there'd be a change in record for either team? Does Orton throw 4 TD passes to upset the 49ers after being down at halftime? Does Cutler throw a few more TD's in the red zone? Edited December 19, 2014 by FireChan
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 He is better than Orton. Virtually every statistic as well as the eye test tells me that. He has a QB rating of about 90 this year. Jeez from what Ive heard I thought it would be in the 40s. Me smells something is wrong. Looks like a potential buy low situation.
JC2002 Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 He is better than Orton. Virtually every statistic as well as the eye test tells me that. Your fantasy team argument makes little sense to me. You try to play it like they're pouring endless amounts of assets into helping Cutler, and not the team. You're also trying to insinuate they hurt the team by getting all these guys for Cutler. Forte wasn't a Pro-Bowler until 2011. He was drafted prior to Cutler being there. Marshall is a great WR, but I think that Sammy will have a very similar career to him. Alshon was a second rounder 3 years ago. Bennet was a nobody in the NFL prior to Cutler, he had 1,500 yards and 9 TD's in his 5 year career before the Bears, numbers that he doubled in 2 years with Cutler, and a little McCown. So explain this to me. They got all this great talent around Cutler, Alshon became a good WR playing with him, Bennet hit career highs in back-to-back seasons, Forte went to a Pro-Bowl with Cutler at the helm. And now, with their horrific defense, they aren't winning games and it's the "fantasy teams'" fault? Every statistic of his play surrounded by pro bowlers ? The eye of test of what ? as i said he has the lipstick you like on but hes still a pig
FireChan Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Every statistic of his play surrounded by pro bowlers ? The eye of test of what ? as i said he has the lipstick you like on but hes still a pig Of watching him throw the football. You do know that's how players are evaluated, right? He has a QB rating of about 90 this year. Jeez from what Ive heard I thought it would be in the 40s. Me smells something is wrong. Looks like a potential buy low situation. The Bears are right to want to get rid of him. His contract is way too large for a "blow-it-up" rebuild that they're about to undergo. And he's proven to not be a guy who can put the entire team on his back if his defense sucks, like Brady or Manning or Luck. But that doesn't make him wrong for the Bills.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Of watching him throw the football. You do know that's how players are evaluated, right? The Bears are right to want to get rid of him. His contract is way too large for a "blow-it-up" rebuild that they're about to undergo. And he's proven to not be a guy who can put the entire team on his back if his defense sucks, like Brady or Manning or Luck. But that doesn't make him wrong for the Bills. I admit that I am intrigued but not ready to pull the trigger. It does require kicking the tires and due diligence because of our QB situation. Pat Kirwin believes that Cutler is much different than he is portrayed.
jethro_tull Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 You all ready to ride the cutler train might want to hold on to your tickets. the benching by trestman is worth zero in the eyes of the next regime. it is a too little, too late desperation move by a lame duck coach. HOWEVER- it might just work for him. IF the team rersponds with a gangbuster effort and beats the lions, espspecially if the defense awakes from the dead, trestman (who has received the nickname "dr death" by local fans and media) could pronounce jay cutler as the team cancer. Many of the flock would buy into this. Likely outcome- the next regime assesses the available QB talent and sees Jay as the best option in the near term and gives Jay another chance.
enlightener Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 For what the next 2-4 years tops until FA shreds us apart like a steel fart. wow where do you get your analogies from? that post was like a peanut butter crap
Simon Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Does acquiring him as a free agent at a greatly reduced number change anyone's opinion about signing him? I wonder. If Jay Cutler was a free agent and showed up at One Bills Drive agreeing to play for the vet minimum, I would have security escort him out.
JC2002 Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Of watching him throw the football. You do know that's how players are evaluated, right? after 6 years the highest paid player on offense is evaluated by how many WINS he can generate not how sexy you think he looks throwing the football.
FireChan Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 after 6 years the highest paid player on offense is evaluated by how many WINS he can generate not how sexy you think he looks throwing the football. Not really.
TheFunPolice Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 You think Marrone will put up with any BS? Cutler shows up here and I predict St. Doug starts three kickers and just won't have room for him on the active roster since Kyle can punt if need be
truth on hold Posted December 19, 2014 Posted December 19, 2014 Bears are stuck with him at least thru 2015. There's no way a team like Tennessee who will be able to draft a Mariota or Winston, with all that potential and at a fraction of the cost of cutler, will opt for cutler instead. And none of the other teams being floated about like bills or jets are stupid enough to take him off bears hands at that price. Bears are stuck paying him anyway, might as well keep him on the roster and let him compete with the likes of other scrubs like clausen
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