vorpma Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 I'm not sure if that's sacrcasm or not (tough to tell sometimes). At any rate as a New Orleanian and someone that follows them pretty closely there is a 0.0% chance of him being made available. Ya think?
mead107 Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 No I wanted him before he went to the saints
Augie Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 No I wanted him before he went to the saints One of the many coaches between then and now would have looked a lot smarter.
GoPre Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Brees to Saints = Kelly to Bills Brees will not be going anywhere.
NoSaint Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Brees to Saints = Kelly to Bills Brees will not be going anywhere. Maybe even bigger- imagine the qb that brings home the Lombardi for buffalo
USABuffaloFan Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Yes. I absolutely would. I would also trade it for Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Flacco, Ryan, Luck, Wilson and Eli Manning That's about it. Any one of those would immediately make us a playoff team and superbowl contender. Rivers or Rothsberger way before ELI Obviously the Bills would do it. 2015 2nd and 3rd. 2016 1st. Or almost whatever it takes from a Bills perspective. For the Saints, you could sort of make an argument that they should consider it. They suck in pretty much the suckiest division in the NFL. He's a huge cap committment. The issue I see (other than the fact that they would be trading away a franchise QB) is who takes his place? If the saints had a young guy they are grooming, I'd say maybe they'd consider it. But I don't think they do. So I can't see how they could trade Brees away. Give them the Picks and EJ Manual
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 2015 2nd 2016 1st 2017 1st Brees is playing at least 3 more years.
Kirby Jackson Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) The fact that people even think that they would ever consider that really lowers the lowers the credibility of this board. I always thought that we knew the game a little better than that. Apparently we are so blinded by our need for a QB that we will believe anything. There are people that actually think a team would trade a QB with better career numbers than Brady, coming off of a 5,000 yard season for anything. Come one people get real!!!!! Edited December 26, 2014 by Kirby Jackson
Augie Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 The fact that people even think that they would ever consider that really lowers the lowers the credibility of this board. I always thought that we knew the game a little better than that. Apparently we are so blinded by our need for a QB that we will believe anything. There are people that actually think a team would trade a QB with better career numbers than Brady, coming off of a 5,000 yard season for anything. Come one people get real!!!!! Wait.... you mean the Saints have to agree to this??? That ruins everything! (You posted some amazing stats a while ago that I must admit shocked me, and I was expecting big numbers. I'm just thrilled if we have a 300 yard passing game.)
NoSaint Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Wait.... you mean the Saints have to agree to this??? That ruins everything! (You posted some amazing stats a while ago that I must admit shocked me, and I was expecting big numbers. I'm just thrilled if we have a 300 yard passing game.) He passed for 300+ nine straight games last year. He's done it twice in his career. At the time no one else had reached 8 straight, and only 15 times had 5 in a row been accomplished. Those totals are from last October. Edited December 26, 2014 by NoSaint
gordong Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) What I find funny is all the people saying it will never happen, I have news for all of you, anyone is available for the right price. Now with that being said what's the price, we will most likely never know. What I want to hear this off season is Doug W calling around to find the QB he believes can put us over the top. If he does that and can't meet the price than that a different matter but at least go out and explore some options I think the most likely out come could be Cutler, hey if Romo can turn his career around Cutler could too, if the guy could just control the turnovers there is no denying he has the talent (but you still have to fix the train wreak o-line). Edited December 26, 2014 by gordong
NoSaint Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 What I find funny is all the people saying it will never happen, I have news for all of you, anyone is available for the right price. the price proposed was in the OP - and it wont happen for it. if we gave enough, sure, but itd be A TON
gordong Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) the price proposed was in the OP - and it wont happen for it. if we gave enough, sure, but itd be A TON I agree it would take a ton to get Brees, but...... With him as QB we go to a super bowl favorite, Would you trade the chance to win a SB knowing you are going to suffer for it years later. Personally I would.......Because I believe that this defense will be long gone before we can draft/or groom a QB. I think we have 3 maybe 4 year window defensively . Edited December 26, 2014 by gordong
billsfan89 Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Yes but you have to acknowledge that taking on a nearly 20 million dollar cap hit in one position would mean letting players on the defense walk. Hughes would certainly be done and it might mean letting Dareus walk next year.
Kirby Jackson Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 What I find funny is all the people saying it will never happen, I have news for all of you, anyone is available for the right price. Now with that being said what's the price, we will most likely never know. What I want to hear this off season is Doug W calling around to find the QB he believes can put us over the top. If he does that and can't meet the price than that a different matter but at least go out and explore some options I think the most likely out come could be Cutler, hey if Romo can turn his career around Cutler could too, if the guy could just control the turnovers there is no denying he has the talent (but you still have to fix the train wreak o-line). It's a MINIMUM of 3 1sts. I guess that anyone is available for that but it's not realistic. It like saying "I would be a Pats fan for a trillion dollars." Yes but you have to acknowledge that taking on a nearly 20 million dollar cap hit in one position would mean letting players on the defense walk. Hughes would certainly be done and it might mean letting Dareus walk next year. You would do that for Brees. Jerry Hughes is a nice player. Drew Brees is a top 10 QB all-time (without much argument).
NoSaint Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Yes but you have to acknowledge that taking on a nearly 20 million dollar cap hit in one position would mean letting players on the defense walk. Hughes would certainly be done and it might mean letting Dareus walk next year. on the bright side, you could shed that kyle orton contract too!
billsfan89 Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 It's a MINIMUM of 3 1sts. I guess that anyone is available for that but it's not realistic. It like saying "I would be a Pats fan for a trillion dollars." You would do that for Brees. Jerry Hughes is a nice player. Drew Brees is a top 10 QB all-time (without much argument). Everything comes at a cost was my main point. If you send that valuable pick to get Brees then you are also committing a lot of salary to that position too. Its worth it considering how important getting a QB is. But it comes at a cost. Having 20 million at QB means letting Hughes and Dareus go. And it going to mean making a lot of other more difficult choices all around the roster.
Kirby Jackson Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Everything comes at a cost was my main point. If you send that valuable pick to get Brees then you are also committing a lot of salary to that position too. Its worth it considering how important getting a QB is. But it comes at a cost. Having 20 million at QB means letting Hughes and Dareus go. And it going to mean making a lot of other more difficult choices all around the roster. No doubt but good cap management can make that a non issue. NoSaint talked about it up thread in regards to NOLA. There are LOTS of ways to creatively operate the cap while your window is open. It's a moot point though in regards to Brees. He's not going anywhere. It could be relevant however if talking about someone like Cutler.
billsfan_34 Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 Can they afford the 24 million hit from Drew Brees' contract? Will he be willing to restructure? It seems like a mess down there and maybe we make a push to get him. I would be stoked if we could somehow make it happen. And in other news I wouldnt mind picking up Owen Daniels in FA. Probably both pipe dreams I know!
GunnerBill Posted February 5, 2015 Posted February 5, 2015 New Orleans are not giving up on Brees at this point whatever his cap hit. Other than his interceptions being up his numbers were still very good.
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