Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Let's trade Kyle Williams for Dan Orlovsky!!
todd Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Two first rounders and a second for a 35 year old QB? Are you out of your mind? We have an elite defense that by the time any QB develops they will be long gone. The Saints are crumbling and may be willing to trade Brees so they can rebuild and given his age he probably only has a few yrs left which is all we need to contend for the Superbowl. I really hate hate trading 1st round picks but considering how many are busts anyway, I'd rather have a proven commodity that can take us all the way, than a "we-hope-so" rookie. I would trade our 2nd this year, 1st pick in the 2016 and 2017 to get him. And by the time he retires we can rebuild when we get 1st rd picks again. We also need to get better Olinemen for the running game and TE for Brees and we would have serious shot at a Superbowl.
1billsfan Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 That's my point. At least we know that we got a proven QB instead of hoping a guy will work out. Why in the world would New Orleans trade away their franchise QB who still plays like a franchise QB? Yes he's getting up there in age, but so what. The guy looks to have at least three good years left. Trading him away would be considered the dumbest move ever in NFL history. This thread is totally nonsensical to me.
nucci Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 We have an elite defense that by the time any QB develops they will be long gone. The Saints are crumbling and may be willing to trade Brees so they can rebuild and given his age he probably only has a few yrs left which is all we need to contend for the Superbowl. I really hate hate trading 1st round picks but considering how many are busts anyway, I'd rather have a proven commodity that can take us all the way, than a "we-hope-so" rookie. I would trade our 2nd this year, 1st pick in the 2016 and 2017 to get him. And by the time he retires we can rebuild when we get 1st rd picks again. We also need to get better Olinemen for the running game and TE for Brees and we would have serious shot at a Superbowl. Glad you are not GM.
ALF Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 Brees (will be 36 Jan 15 ) is the same height and weight as Manziel. Saints must of had a awesome OL for him to do so well in the past. His salary is too high if we re-sign our good players. Brees $26.4m in 2015 , $27.4m in 2016 http://www.spotrac.c...nts/drew-brees/
scribo Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) I'd make the move if I were running the Bills. And I'd make the move if I were running the Saints. Maybe, that's why I'm not running either team. The Bills would instantly be serious contenders going into next season. Legit. Brees is up there in age and is on team that is deteriorating steadily and rapidly, moving into what will need to be a rebuild mode. An extra 1st would be helpful. The Saints won't be contenders again in the few years Brees' has left. Edited December 21, 2014 by scribo
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 21, 2014 Posted December 21, 2014 We have an elite defense that by the time any QB develops they will be long gone. The Saints are crumbling and may be willing to trade Brees so they can rebuild and given his age he probably only has a few yrs left which is all we need to contend for the Superbowl. I really hate hate trading 1st round picks but considering how many are busts anyway, I'd rather have a proven commodity that can take us all the way, than a "we-hope-so" rookie. I would trade our 2nd this year, 1st pick in the 2016 and 2017 to get him. And by the time he retires we can rebuild when we get 1st rd picks again. We also need to get better Olinemen for the running game and TE for Brees and we would have serious shot at a Superbowl.
Nick the Greek Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Do we have a first round pick next year? Oops! This thread has no point
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Do we have a first round pick next year? Oops! This thread has no point 2016 smart guy
Kirby Jackson Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Yeah, let's trade for Brees. Maybe we can get Elway, Marino or Unitas otherwise?
Kelly the Dog Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Yeah, let's trade for Brees. Maybe we can get Elway, Marino or Unitas otherwise? Unitas is too old. Be reasonable.
TheFunPolice Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Some never stop to ask if the other team would do it. Of course the Bills would be interested... (Or maybe not) But no way the Saints trade Brees
NoSaint Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Since this had talk of the saints cap situation, i figured id share this here -- discussion from one of their boards. including getting under the cap without cutting a single player: Step 1- Convert Roster Bonuses into Signing BonusesConverting Galette($10 mil), Byrd($4.8 mil), Graham($3.3 mil), and Lofton's($3 mil) roster bonuses into signing bonuses saves us about $21.1 mil. We are now under the cap. then some cut options that get you to signing all the rookies, and having a free agent class Step 2- Cut Some FatHere we will cut Evans($6 mil), Bunkley($2.9 mil), and Hawthorne($3 mil). This saves us $11.9 mil. We can also consider Colston($4.3 mil), Grubbs($3.6 mil), and Lofton($4 mil) here. They are less cost effective as the others(more dead money), and are arguably more valuable than the other 3 also. We would be better served by getting them to take pay cuts or shifting their money around. i think sub evans for colston in step 2 and you are pretty close to what is seen.
Kirby Jackson Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Since this had talk of the saints cap situation, i figured id share this here -- discussion from one of their boards. including getting under the cap without cutting a single player: then some cut options that get you to signing all the rookies, and having a free agent class i think sub evans for colston in step 2 and you are pretty close to what is seen. Wait a minute I thought that they were going to just trade Brees because they were in cap trouble? He had a terrible year anyways. I bet I you called and offered a 2nd they'd jump at it. If you can get a 2nd for a 5,000 yard QB and you have those cap issues you've got to jump at it.
FireChan Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Wait a minute I thought that they were going to just trade Brees because they were in cap trouble? He had a terrible year anyways. I bet I you called and offered a 2nd they'd jump at it. If you can get a 2nd for a 5,000 yard QB and you have those cap issues you've got to jump at it. Especially when a move like this would make us Super Bowl contenders. Is there a better pick than #60-64?
Augie Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 I don't have words to desrcibe how happy I am that he didn't end up with the Dolphins. Brady and Brees 4 times a year? No thanks... Getting to play Geno from time to time does not make up for that!
dubs Posted December 26, 2014 Posted December 26, 2014 Obviously the Bills would do it. 2015 2nd and 3rd. 2016 1st. Or almost whatever it takes from a Bills perspective. For the Saints, you could sort of make an argument that they should consider it. They suck in pretty much the suckiest division in the NFL. He's a huge cap committment. The issue I see (other than the fact that they would be trading away a franchise QB) is who takes his place? If the saints had a young guy they are grooming, I'd say maybe they'd consider it. But I don't think they do. So I can't see how they could trade Brees away.
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