/dev/null Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 16 December 1944 Nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I bet the M1 was big here, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Patton's finest moment - turning the axis of advance of the Third Army ninety degrees in 72 hours to counter-attack and relieve Bastogne. In truth, it was more like ten days - he knew First Army on his left flak was weak, and had his staff develop contingency plans for the counterattack. Still a hell of a performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Patton's finest moment - turning the axis of advance of the Third Army ninety degrees in 72 hours to counter-attack and relieve Bastogne. In truth, it was more like ten days - he knew First Army on his left flak was weak, and had his staff develop contingency plans for the counterattack. Still a hell of a performance. What's your favorite book on this battle? I'm home for the holidays and hunting for reading material. Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 What's your favorite book on this battle? I'm home for the holidays and hunting for reading material. Thanks in advance! Depends on what you're looking for. I generally hate Toland, but his book on the Ardennes is actually a good general history. MacDonald's "A Time For Trumpets" is good as well. Most everything else I've read can be summarized as "insane level of detail only I would be interested in." (For example, do NOT read "To Win The Winter Sky." It would bore a normal person to tears.) One of the problems with the literature on the Bulge is that it's SO widely written about that there's a good amount of crap available as well (yes, Stephen Ambrose, I'm looking at you, ya hack). Fortunately, my conscious mind seems to have blocked out all the crap I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It was something that had to be done and we did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Depends on what you're looking for. I generally hate Toland, but his book on the Ardennes is actually a good general history. MacDonald's "A Time For Trumpets" is good as well. Most everything else I've read can be summarized as "insane level of detail only I would be interested in." (For example, do NOT read "To Win The Winter Sky." It would bore a normal person to tears.) One of the problems with the literature on the Bulge is that it's SO widely written about that there's a good amount of crap available as well (yes, Stephen Ambrose, I'm looking at you, ya hack). Fortunately, my conscious mind seems to have blocked out all the crap I've read. Cheers. I devour WWII books (bios, histories, tactics etc) so I've read a bunch on it but know you're a bigger history buff than me when it comes to the military and was looking for a gem I might have overlooked. I just read Time for Trumpets last year actually, loved it. I don't love Toland either but did find "The Rising Sun" worthwhile though I hated "Infamy". I like Ambrose more than you (just because I'm a storyteller so I'm a pushover for his style even if it lacks the substance -- or accuracy) but get where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I enjoy Dan Carlin's podcast "hardcore history". He does an excellent 4 part podcast on WW I- http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-50-blueprint-for-armageddon-i/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If you want straight tactics, "Hitler's Last Gamble." It's meticulously researched, but incredibly dense and dry. Tough read, but if you want to know how the 14th Cavalry Group screened the Losheim Gap, this book will tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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