mrags Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Time to cue all the "he is a great weapon, just like CJ Spiller if this idiot OC could just gameplan for them" Get over it people. Really good players don't need gimmicks to get the ball and be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Ugh...I knew this was just a matter of time. The guy has incredible speed. Not his fault he has a heaping pile of dog poo for QB and offensive coaches. Just watch the separation he gets when he runs. I always keep an eye on him when he's on the field, and its amazing how fast he is. The way he's built, it's no surprise he gets hurt. But on any competent offense, he would be an instant threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Ugh...I knew this was just a matter of time. The guy has incredible speed. Not his fault he has a heaping pile of dog poo for QB and offensive coaches. Just watch the separation he gets when he runs. I always keep an eye on him when he's on the field, and its amazing how fast he is. The way he's built, it's no surprise he gets hurt. But on any competent offense, he would be an instant threat. hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 you don't take a chance on a "good athlete" that maybe will turn into a football player in the 3rd round. the late rounds are for projects like that. 3rd round you want to get someone who can step in and play right away. look at what Preston Brown has done this year for example so no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Time to cue all the "he is a great weapon, just like CJ Spiller if this idiot OC could just gameplan for them" Get over it people. Really good players don't need gimmicks to get the ball and be effective. They might not need gimmicks but they do need to play for a coach who puts them on the field during the game. It ain't rocket surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 They might not need gimmicks but they do need to play for a coach who puts them on the field during the game. It ain't rocket surgery. watch both of them over the remainder of their careers. Ill bet you a sick pack they don't have 20 touchdowns between the both of them for the remainder of their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 your playing time evaporates when you mention you have Sickle Cell on Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 watch both of them over the remainder of their careers. Ill bet you a sick pack they don't have 20 touchdowns between the both of them for the remainder of their careers. I wouldn't bet on TJ Graham if my life depended on it. Graham is NOT Goodwin. They are completely different players... one can catch, the other can catch colds and lie down in the endzone on kickoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I have been as critical of Goodwin as possible and as supportive of Graham as possible. Goodwin still offered something that Graham did not, but ultimately it does not matter because it is wiped away with the fact that Goodwin is glass. That said, its not time to call him a bust. Give him another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Bye bye Here's what I want to know: If folks are so fired up to label players as "busts," can we do the same thing with 95% of TSW posters? Pretty obvious, you can... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) I agree with another poster that "busts" can't come out of the first round, and I'd even be willing to extend "bust" to the second round, but not the third round, particularly when a team isn't reliant upon that player's or that player's position contributing. In the case of the 2013 draft, we drafted Robert Woods a round prior, making the Goodwin pick some what of a luxury pick. Now, if we're holding the FO to a standard that suggests the draft is anything BUT a crap shoot, then we're being unreasonable. If we're saying teams shouldn't duplicate a position for "luxury" purposes, we must first consider hindsight when calling it "luxury" then also consider the Kyle Williams/John McCargo and Henderson/Kujo pairings. I did, however, find this interesting: http://goo.gl/8cTzHJ I didn't realize Antonio Brown was a sixth rounder. That tells you everything you need to know about the NFL draft. **** IS RANDOM Edited December 16, 2014 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) is it fair to label a deep threat a bust when you have a noodle arm QB who doesn't throw deep. Edited December 16, 2014 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 actually no its his durability the guy is a glass joe Which is exactly what I said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Meh, I always believe you can't consider someone a "bust" when they aren't a 1st round pick. Goodwin is a track star. He's a speed demon in a straight line but he's not a very good football player. He runs average routes, isn't very fluid in his breaks, has average hands etc. He's just a gifted athlete who isn't good at football. No bigs. Yup; the Bills took a shot at a track guy hoping they could steal a deep threat in the draft. It's always a high risk move; sometimes it works (Willie Gault, Bob Hayes), sometimes it doesn't (Renaldo Nehemiah, Johnny 'Lam' Jones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Yup; the Bills took a shot at a track guy hoping they could steal a deep threat in the draft. It's always a high risk move; sometimes it works (Willie Gault, Bob Hayes), sometimes it doesn't (Renaldo Nehemiah, Johnny 'Lam' Jones). How do you think Goodwin would look with Big Ben throwing him the ball? Actually that gives me an idea: trade him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 How do you think Goodwin would look with Big Ben throwing him the ball? Actually that gives me an idea: trade him! Every Bills offensive player would look better with Big Ben at QB, except those who can't stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Every Bills offensive player would look better with Big Ben at QB, except those who can't stay healthy. Even Lee Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Even Lee Smith? He'd nail down the save no matter who was playing QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Oh good I was wondering when we would get a new whooping boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg17 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I wonder if any Colt fans ever called Jerry Hughes a bust. Doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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