voodoo poonani Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Marrone was quoted by the announcers as saying the way he builds his team is defense, special teams, and then offense in that order. If we get to 9 or 10 wins are we doomed to see this offense again next season? If so, we're going to be stuck in the mud, spinning our tires again. The offense is horrendous, and it's holding this team back. I hope Pegula does whatever is necessary to keep this D together (including Schwartz). I hope to hell somebody in he organization puts an offense together and finds us a freaking QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 what is worrisome is that after a really exciting game, with plenty of huge plays, we beat a Super Bowl contending team... and a comment by the coach is what you want to focus on. There's a time and a place for everytihing. This is not thr time nor the place to be criticizing the HC moments after the biggest win in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 So doomed after 10 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Marrone was quoted by the announcers as saying the way he builds his team is defense, special teams, and then offense in that order. If we get to 9 or 10 wins are we doomed to see this offense again next season? If so, we're going to be stuck in the mud, spinning our tires again. The offense is horrendous, and it's holding this team back. I hope Pegula does whatever is necessary to keep this D together (including Schwartz). I hope to hell somebody in he organization puts an offense together and finds us a freaking QB. Says captain obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 The most upsetting thing to me about it is, not its validity as a philosophy, but rather it's a lie. He is just covering his ass trying to take credit (which he deserves as hc) for the only bright spot on the team. If Marrone was so I vilbed with the defense first, why are the last 2 years philosophies so different? Just trying I save face, and take the distraction at how bad his personally coached OL and offense are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Did you guys catch the FOX announcers say that Marrone told them that the way you build a winning team is first by defense, then ST, and then offense? This was the first time I have ever heard Marrone espouse this theory. What do folks think? It sounded like an excuse as to why our offense is bad, but assuming it isn't, is this the right way to build your team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) If you don't have a qb( and can't develope one)and can't call plays or asses personnel on oline, sure. Edited December 14, 2014 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Did you guys catch the FOX announcers say that Marrone told them that the way you build a winning team is first by defense, then ST, and then offense? This was the first time I have ever heard Marrone espouse this theory. What do folks think? It sounded like an excuse as to why our offense is bad, but assuming it isn't, is this the right way to build your team? It's a total excuse as to why the O is bad. No one ever puts ST's ahead of offense (unless you mean FG kicker, to cover for a bad offense). Usually a coach who starts with D goes to running game, then passing, then special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Well that certainly is a perfectly timed excuse. For a HC that is clueless. Who knew he had that much control of the team? I would like to hear Whaley asked about that statement............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 So doomed after 10 wins. We don't have ten wins, and probably won't get them. My point is we have an extremely low chance of making the playoffs this year, even at ten wins. The likelihood of getting 10 or more next year is low unless they address all of the issues on offense. I'm happy we won, but I'm a big picture guy. I'm not just concerned with next week, but next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Not having a top-20 NFL QB, and then having him work with a rookie and two second-year WRs, a merely serviceable TE and just three average NFL starter quality OL might make you go that route. But hey, let's not look reality in the face. This is TSW, afterall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Did you guys catch the FOX announcers say that Marrone told them that the way you build a winning team is first by defense, then ST, and then offense? This was the first time I have ever heard Marrone espouse this theory. What do folks think? It sounded like an excuse as to why our offense is bad, but assuming it isn't, is this the right way to build your team? the more he makes statements like this in public attempting to take all the glory, the more I want this egotistical Pinstripe Bowl Champion GONE. Someone should ask him what exactly HE has done to improve the defense or ST. Seems Whaley and Schwartz have done that. Meanwhile, his pick for offense has been a total disaster. So, the next step is to fire Marrone and Hackett? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 First of all, the Fox announcers were utterly clueless today and did nothing that would give me reason to put faith in their reporting skills. Second of all, Marrone is really not all that good at expressing himself to the press. (Which I don't care about, but it's true.) It's like a game of telephone, with 3 opportunities to screw up the message: beginning with what Marrone thinks, then what he conveyed to the Fox team, then what the Fox team heard, and finally what they tried to get across. It's meaningless. kj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) It means we're going offense and needs in the draft, that's what it means. So we'll get a TE as our second round pick then a RB (first one of the board), then more O-line. WR's should improve greatly going into next season, them all having a years worth of XP under their belt (Woods 2), hopefully the O-line guys will get it together during the offseason. I expect a battle for starting QB between Orton and EJ, with Orton coming out on top, we might even grab a big QB in FA if one is available. And hopefully a new OC. Edited December 14, 2014 by bladiebla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 Did you guys catch the FOX announcers say that Marrone told them that the way you build a winning team is first by defense, then ST, and then offense? This was the first time I have ever heard Marrone espouse this theory. What do folks think? It sounded like an excuse as to why our offense is bad, but assuming it isn't, is this the right way to build your team? I started another thread on that quote and everyone starting jumping on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Did you guys catch the FOX announcers say that Marrone told them that the way you build a winning team is first by defense, then ST, and then offense? This was the first time I have ever heard Marrone espouse this theory. What do folks think? It sounded like an excuse as to why our offense is bad, but assuming it isn't, is this the right way to build your team? Marrone said that? Link / source? I figured that was just the announcer talking out of his butt. They are always saying weird stuff off the cuff. Edited December 14, 2014 by ldandria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 It means we're going offense and needs in the draft, that's what it means. So we'll get a TE as our second round pick then a RB (first one of the board), then more O-line. WR's should improve greatly going into next season, them all having a years worth of XP under their belt (Woods 2), hopefully the O-line guys will get it together during the offseason. I expect a battle for starting QB between Orton and EJ, with Orton coming out on top, we might even grab a big QB in FA if one is available. And hopefully a new OC. If we go TE then RB and stick with Orton/EJ then we're going backwards. We need Guards and a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 The most upsetting thing to me about it is, not its validity as a philosophy, but rather it's a lie. He is just covering his ass trying to take credit (which he deserves as hc) for the only bright spot on the team. If Marrone was so I vilbed with the defense first, why are the last 2 years philosophies so different? Just trying I save face, and take the distraction at how bad his personally coached OL and offense are. If Marrone is personally coaching our O-line, what does our O-line coach do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 First of all, the Fox announcers were utterly clueless today and did nothing that would give me reason to put faith in their reporting skills. Second of all, Marrone is really not all that good at expressing himself to the press. (Which I don't care about, but it's true.) It's like a game of telephone, with 3 opportunities to screw up the message: beginning with what Marrone thinks, then what he conveyed to the Fox team, then what the Fox team heard, and finally what they tried to get across. It's meaningless. kj Sorta Nailed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Well, today we squared off against the greatest QB of all time, and the formula worked. Did you have evidence to contrary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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