KRT88 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Mel Keiper is an idiot but let's face it, that's hardly breaking news. Winston has everything you would want in a QB minus the fact that he is personally immature. Hopefully he'll grow up and make better decisions. I think we tend to over do the stupid things. The sexual allegations are troubling but unfortunately we have no idea what really took place.
3rdand12 Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 He definitely appears to be worth a look. in round two...?
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2015 Author Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) "Let's Fail for Cardale"?Hopefully that's what happens to your Hokies week 1! I kid, i kid. Edited February 24, 2015 by YoloinOhio
Nasty Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Did he haveTom Brady listed as a franchise QB.?
BobbyC81 Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Did he haveTom Brady listed as a franchise QB.? Yeah, I wish somebody could pull up a pre-draft evaluation of Brady.
Jobu Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 zak (chicago) Where will Russell Wilson go in the draft? Mel Kiper (1:57 PM) He's only about 5-10, 5-11. The height will really hurt him. He's an outstanding college QB. He did some great things at NC State. Did some great things at Wisconsin this year. He's like Seneca Wallace type. Maybe a 6-7 round pick. Serviceable backup. Kipper and his hair are ridiculous. http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/41597/football-guru-mel-kiper
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Hopefully that's what happens to your Hokies week 1! I kid, i kid. Seeking revenge for that home loss? haha I just hope its a good game, our QB is so up and down
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 I would be curious to read Kiper's explanation for why Mariota is not a "franchise QB". IMO, Mariota is easily the best prospect since Luck and will be a better pro than Luck.Better pro? Than luck? The guy who's been a probowl qb every year? Mariota probably won't even be the best qb in this draft. I am always skeptical of people in a position like his. Fans listen to him and think he knows more about evaluating talent than people who do it for a living. Moments after every draft, fans are waiting for these so called experts draft grades. Clinging to the hope that their team did good. Football is a business, to some degree the teams have to appease the fans, during the draft, to sell season tickets. Do you really think Cleveland wanted to draft Johnny football in the first round? I guarantee you that people like Mel having JF so high on their draft board influenced Cleveland's decision. In the multi-billion dollar industry of the NFL, i would not put it past the agents to slide some money to these people to get their client higher up the draft board. Honestly, how did the Bills draft Aaron Maybin at #11? How did they draft James Hardy at #41? I just have no use for people like Mel. Interesting take. The politics implied are: If you're contrarian and wrong you're an idiot. If you go with the status quo talking heads and you're wong it's just unlucky. Yeah, I wish somebody could pull up a pre-draft evaluation of Brady. it's incredible to me with all the money time and effort spent evaluating quarterbacks how mysterious the art of selecting good versus bad remains.
mannc Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 I think that describes EJ Manuel too, but the jury is still out on him.EJ Manuel's and Marcus Mariota's college careers are not remotely comparable. Nice try, though. Better pro? Than luck? The guy who's been a probowl qb every year? Mariota probably won't even be the best qb in this draft. I guess we'll see, won't we?
Dragonborn10 Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 I would be curious to read Kiper's explanation for why Mariota is not a "franchise QB". IMO, Mariota is easily the best prospect since Luck and will be a better pro than Luck.You can't be serious...
GunnerBill Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Some on here love Mariota some love Winston.... a few in each camp think their guy is better than Luck. If I was the Buccs I'd take Marcus Mariota but I think they are going to take Winston..... frankly I think either would be a very good pick but not the guaranteed Franchise transformer that Luck was.
Bill from NYC Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) I've never understood this argument.. Is the point that fans got it wrong so they should lay off the GM for getting it wrong too? I get the frustration with fans acting afterwards like they thought the choice was obvious but that does not excuse poor choices by the men paid millions to get it right. This Sir, is a great post. People like you and me are not likely to ace a draft let alone properly asses every quarterback. That said, for many years I have seen posters on this board post better draft selections than our inept management, especially Levy/Jauron. When a guy like me think that Rob Johnson is a good qb and is wrong, no harm done. When our management uses top ten picks on the likes of Whitner and Spiller, they harm the franchise. Edited February 24, 2015 by Bill from NYC
YoloinOhio Posted February 24, 2015 Author Posted February 24, 2015 Seeking revenge for that home loss? haha I just hope its a good game, our QB is so up and down Yes I know they are very much seeking revenge! lol. I'm already nervous. I have issues haha, No clue who our QB will be though.
mannc Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 You can't be serious... Right, because Mariota has never accomplished anything at the college level and obviously does not have the tools to become a great QB. Thanks for posting your informed opinion.
peterpan Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 I would be curious to read Kiper's explanation for why Mariota is not a "franchise QB". IMO, Mariota is easily the best prospect since Luck and will be a better pro than Luck. lolololololololol
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 This Sir, is a great post. People like you and me are not likely to ace a draft let alone properly asses every quarterback. That said, for many years I have seen posters on this board post better draft selections than our inept management, especially Levy/Jauron. When a guy like me think that Rob Johnson is a good qb and is wrong, no harm done. When our management uses top ten picks on the likes of Whitner and Spiller, they harm the franchise. Levy drafted maybe the best rb in the NFL.
Garranimal Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Levy drafted maybe the best rb in the NFL. arrrgghhh....why ruin a perfectly good crusade with something stupid like a fact?
gumby Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Almost makes me happy the Bills don't have a 1st this year. I think the temptation might of been to great for Whaley to resist making a move up the board to get either Winston or Mariota.
Beef Jerky Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Almost makes me happy the Bills don't have a 1st this year. I think the temptation might of been to great for Whaley to resist making a move up the board to get either Winston or Mariota. They can be very smart and grab Grayson.
Bill from NYC Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Levy drafted maybe the best rb in the NFL. He sure did. The problem was that there was little blocking and no quarterback. Oh, and the Bills lost football games. It mattered little. The 2006 draft was just so awful that it set the team back quite a few years. Levy and Jauron were simply inept managers that nobody else wanted.
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