BarleyNY Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 The Bills are going to do what they have been doing. Bring in volume free agents and 1st round wash outs and see if they hit on any. They will sign more than they lose and there will be no compensatory pick. We're not getting a pick for Hughes. It's not gonna happen. It's a super secret formula and all, but if the Bills lose Hughes they almost certainly will be getting a comp pick. He's going to get big dollars and a bunch of low-level contracts are not going to impact that. Barring a big signing the Bills would wind up with a 3rd or 4th round pick. Personally I would franchise the man before I let him leave. If it got nasty with him, then I'd trade him as a last resort (and get more than his comp pick value without having to worry about any offsets). And yes I know that the league frowns on franchising a player only to trade them, but that would not be my intent when I did it. I'd be looking to lock him up long-term.
PromoTheRobot Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If I remember correctly compensatory picks are the following year. That means this year we are looking at Byrd, which we will get none from since we signed Graham and AW. Correct me if I am wrong. That said if we lose Hughes but resign Spiller and either trade or sign a FA QB, we most likely get nothing. The rule is Buffalo gets nothing, ever.
NoSaint Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 It's a super secret formula and all, but if the Bills lose Hughes they almost certainly will be getting a comp pick. He's going to get big dollars and a bunch of low-level contracts are not going to impact that. Barring a big signing the Bills would wind up with a 3rd or 4th round pick. Personally I would franchise the man before I let him leave. If it got nasty with him, then I'd trade him as a last resort (and get more than his comp pick value without having to worry about any offsets). And yes I know that the league frowns on franchising a player only to trade them, but that would not be my intent when I did it. I'd be looking to lock him up long-term. a bunch of low level contract will DRAMATICALLY effect it. to even qualify to look at the dollars and get a pick, you need to lose more bodies than you sign. a special teamer could cancel out hughes. The rule is Buffalo gets nothing, ever. as weve never prioritized it like some teams do in roster composition. The ravens, for instance, often talk about targeting signings that were cut from their previous teams as they do not count as a body in. Id also guess similarly in august, all things equal they may keep an expiring contract around to become a qualified loss (again, if two guys are pretty well the same quality otherwise)
1B4IDie Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 It's a super secret formula and all, but if the Bills lose Hughes they almost certainly will be getting a comp pick. He's going to get big dollars and a bunch of low-level contracts are not going to impact that. Barring a big signing the Bills would wind up with a 3rd or 4th round pick. Personally I would franchise the man before I let him leave. If it got nasty with him, then I'd trade him as a last resort (and get more than his comp pick value without having to worry about any offsets). And yes I know that the league frowns on franchising a player only to trade them, but that would not be my intent when I did it. I'd be looking to lock him up long-term. It is not a super secret formula. If team B loses 3 all pros to 100 million contracts each, then signs 4 scrubs for league minimum they receive ZERO compensatory picks. The Bills are going to sign a bunch of scrubs and will not get a compensatory pick for Hughes.
JPS Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If Whaley lets Hughes walk, he should be fired immediately. I'm sick of watching good players leave then the Bills play whack a mole to fill their holes.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If Whaley lets Hughes walk, he should be fired immediately. I'm sick of watching good players leave then the Bills play whack a mole to fill their holes. If he doesn't sign an extension before the UFA period begins, franchise and negotiate is the way to go IMO.
JPS Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If he doesn't sign an extension before the UFA period begins, franchise and negotiate is the way to go IMO. yep. Keep your good players. Hell, keep your decent players.
johnwalter Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If Whaley lets Hughes walk, he should be fired immediately. I'm sick of watching good players leave then the Bills play whack a mole to fill their holes. to be fair, thats how a lot of us felt about byrd and levitre.
BarleyNY Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 a bunch of low level contract will DRAMATICALLY effect it. to even qualify to look at the dollars and get a pick, you need to lose more bodies than you sign. a special teamer could cancel out hughes. as weve never prioritized it like some teams do in roster composition. The ravens, for instance, often talk about targeting signings that were cut from their previous teams as they do not count as a body in. Id also guess similarly in august, all things equal they may keep an expiring contract around to become a qualified loss (again, if two guys are pretty well the same quality otherwise) It is not a super secret formula. If team B loses 3 all pros to 100 million contracts each, then signs 4 scrubs for league minimum they receive ZERO compensatory picks. The Bills are going to sign a bunch of scrubs and will not get a compensatory pick for Hughes. Incorrect. Players making league minimum do not factor into the equation. I tried to post a link to an article, but no Bleacher Report articles are allowed to be linked here. Also I doubt that the Bills are in real danger of signing more non-minimum FA players than they lose.
Rubes Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Jerry Hughes' contract should be Bills' top priority "The Bills are slated to have among the most cap space of any team in the league for the 2015 season." I like the sound of that.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 to be fair, thats how a lot of us felt about byrd and levitre. @Grantland33 .@billbarnwell breaks down how the Saints ended up in salary-cap hell http://gran.tl/12BFOd8
Captain Caveman Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Yeah, any pick would be in 2016, and will depend on what we do in FA.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 @Grantland33 .@billbarnwell breaks down how the Saints ended up in salary-cap hell http://gran.tl/12BFOd8 Wow. Maybe we can steal a player from them this offseason. $26M cap hit for Brees? Wow.... CBF
nucci Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 What would Jerry Hughes bring in a compensatory pick? If we lost Hughes and Hughes alone, how much is that likely to give us in compensation? I do understand that it is relative to the talent we bring in but by all expectations losing him + the likely Hairston/Pears (or both) plus Lee Smith... I think we might have a large sum of losses. 3 players not worth anything
boyst Posted December 12, 2014 Author Posted December 12, 2014 3 players not worth anything The contracts they sign will show otherwise. Each should draw +$1mm/season and multiple years.
1B4IDie Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Incorrect. Players making league minimum do not factor into the equation. I tried to post a link to an article, but no Bleacher Report articles are allowed to be linked here. Also I doubt that the Bills are in real danger of signing more non-minimum FA players than they lose. Find a better source then.
BarleyNY Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Find a better source then. I told you where it was. Try Google. I bet you can even do it yourself!
Proteus Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 We have the best defensive line in football and rush the passer better than anybody else. When you do something better than everyone else in the league, you have to keep that together. If we don't resign Hughes, we must at least tag him and trade him for a first.
djp14150 Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 I dont think we get compensated for him since we didnt draft him. We should get a comp pick for Byrd. We should have gotten one for Levitre
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