26TrapDraw Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 We just need a consistent accurate arm the rest of the pieces are there (maybe a good guard or two in draft/free agency) and we're good. If pressed I'd take Bradford from that list. That's all though.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Â Â Philbin is terrible, I live in sofla and the consensus here is that he's clueless to what's going on in his locker room. He's too soft spoken in many peoples opinion. Â Similar to Wade Phillips. Philbin may just be a good coordinator who doesn't have what it takes to be a HC. Another good example is Schwartz. Good DC...horrible HC.
hondo in seattle Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 I don't want anyone on that list. I just puked in my mouth a little. We're in trouble if we can't land one in the draft. Â Who are you going to draft that can start right away? Â I think Orton's our guy for at least another year.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Â Â Who are you going to draft that can start right away? Â I think Orton's our guy for at least another year. Â I'm not counting on drafting our franchise QB. I guess what I'm saying is were fugged. Orton for another season seems likely.
John from Riverside Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 I think people better wrap their minds around a camp battle between Orton and Manuel (with Orton probably winning) for this next year..... Â Hopefully what we will see is the bills being REALLY agressive in run blocking/pass protection help.....and offensive targets
CSBill Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Seeing as we are where we are at with no number one pick to generate a franchise changing pick in next years draft i thought i would gather some names & see what you all think of these available guys & just throw them out there .  Bills- EJ & Orton St. Louis - Sam Bradford Eagles - Sanchez Browns - Hoyer R Skins - RG 3 Bucs - Mike Glennon Texans - Mallet & Shaub Bengals - Jason Campell & AJ McCarron Fins - Matt Moore Raiders - Matt Mcgloin ? - Arron Murray ? - Landry Jones Cards - Drew Stanton Last but not least - Fitz  Fitz will never happen but all of these guys could be had at a reasonable price .  AJ McCarron - Landry Jones - Bradford - Matt Moore could all be had pretty cheap i'm thinking & the first 2 were great QB's n college & did a lot more than EJ & i think will be really good NFL QB's  Just Throwing it out there !!  Bradford is the only one with a potentially strong upside, if you can keep him healthy.
Green Lightning Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Kinda wish we would have went with Nassib and let him sit and learn. I know that was the plan with EJ, but I think Nassib is going to develop. Hindsight... Â With the group the OP posted, I gotta go with Bradford an keep Orton because with Bradford starting, you will need good back up.
3rdand12 Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 The Bills are banking on EJ still. pretty carzy but thats what we got. do they risk the cash on Stanford? i don't know that don anyone fool yourself other wise. There is little option right now without digging a bigger hole. Losing the 1st rounder this year has left the Bills in a squeeze. Be interesting to see how Whaley plays the off season this time around
Fixxxer Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 What's Schaub status in Raiders land? Can his career be salvaged if given the chance?
Drreef2 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 These are a couple suggestions for QBs to compete with EJ... Â 1. Jason Campbell - free agent - he has experience and could be a good mentor for EJ going forward. Also Hue Jackson is familiar with him from time in Oakland and Cincinnati this year. When he was in Oakland, he had them playing well until a season ending injury. That was the year Oakland finished 8-8 and Jackson was fired after Al Davis had passed away. I know he looked terrible when he came in for Cutler a couple years ago but I am not expecting him to start. Â 2. Chase Daniel - trade from KC. He is now 28 and shows a lot of poise in limited action (week 17 the last two years). Not sure about using him as a long term solution but he has never had a fair shake as a starter (backed up Brees at one point). Â 3. Drew Stanton - trade - viable option as a backup who may still want to compete for a starting job. Injury concerns and unclear what Palmer's return schedule from injury looks like. Â Agree? Disagree? Other thoughts?
bisonbrigade Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Suck, Suck and Suck. No thanks. Jake Locker please.
moshermw Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 See thread on Tyrod Taylor  Summary: - Free Agent - at end of 4 year deal with Ravens - Poor man's Russell Wilson - just faster and more elusive - Arm is as strong if not stronger then RW and accurate - Four year, unseated #2 to Joe Flacco - Wants to start - badly enough to take low $ (think 1/3 of Orton $ish) - Is 2-0 vs Russel Wilson in same college conference, and 1-0 vs EJ and Ponder both - Holds all VT PASSING records and is almost as fast as Vick at his prime. - Held clipboard behind Flacco - with OC's Cam Cameron and Gary Kubiak - Proven winner at every level - Unproven as a starter but could be a steal .. that's the beauty   Â
LABills08 Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 What are the realistic names? Can we start a list?  Free Agents: Mark Sanchez Brian Hoyer Matt Moore Christian Ponder  (pretty gross list)  Via Trade (based purely on who may be available) Matt Ryan (longshot) Jay Cutler Colin Kaepernick Kirk Cousins   Who are we missing? I think there will be discussions about the Bills trading for Kaepernick and Cutler for most of the offseason. But my hunch is that they go with Hoyer or Sanchez.  Â
The Frankish Reich Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 What are the realistic names? Can we start a list?  Free Agents: Mark Sanchez Brian Hoyer Matt Moore Christian Ponder  (pretty gross list)  Via Trade (based purely on who may be available) Matt Ryan (longshot) Jay Cutler Colin Kaepernick Kirk Cousins   Who are we missing? I think there will be discussions about the Bills trading for Kaepernick and Cutler for most of the offseason. But my hunch is that they go with Hoyer or Sanchez.   Before the forum cops shut you down ("use the search function!"), allow me to say thank you for including Ponder. Why? Well, not because he's any good (he isn't). Because he's no worse than EJ. In fact, he actually has a little success to show for his time as a starter. Yet we keep hearing EJ can improve, but presumably Ponder can't? Bottom line is they both have minimal value and only the desperate would be looking at either one as a starter in 2015.
jletha Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 Vick and Locker are FA. I think we could trade for Bradford.
boyst Posted January 13, 2015 Author Posted January 13, 2015 Vick and Locker are FA. I think we could trade for Bradford. just beat me to it. I am curious about Locker for no other reason then he does have talent.
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