Fadingpain Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 On 12/8/2014 at 2:57 AM, Triple Threat said: I'm not making fun of you or being smart, just saying it's not that big of an upgrade and I'd rather roll with Orton and have him even more comfortable in the playbook. I hear you. How about Cutler? Keep in mind statistically speaking we have pretty much the worst QB performance in the league this year. I admit Hoyer is a very modest improvement. Statistically, Cutler is a huge improvement. And yet he is a middling talent as well that is never going to take anyone, anywhere, ever. It's a tough nut to crack.
SJDK Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 On 12/8/2014 at 2:01 AM, Stopthepain said: You think Hoyer is worse than Kyle? I don't. Orton is a lot better than Hoyer
Fadingpain Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 On 12/8/2014 at 3:15 AM, SJDK said: Orton is a lot better than Hoyer Statistically he's worse; but they are very close, middling talents.
CardinalScotts Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 I'll tale hoyer overy the qbs we have....probably the most wth thING I've read on this website in atleasy 3-4 years I'll take hoyer over the qbs we have....probably the most "wth" thing I've read on this website in atleast 3-4 years
Fadingpain Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 On 12/8/2014 at 3:22 AM, CardinalScotts said: I'll tale hoyer overy the qbs we have....probably the most wth thING I've read on this website in atleasy 3-4 years I'll take hoyer over the qbs we have....probably the most "wth" thing I've read on this website in atleast 3-4 years Says the man who can't type. Have another one.
pepsicat17 Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 I'll take any of the FA coming out over EJ and Kyle. We need to take advantage of this defense while we have it.
mike22nc Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 On 12/8/2014 at 3:17 AM, Stopthepain said: Statistically he's worse; but they are very close, middling talents. What statistics are you referencing? Orton has a 14:7 TD:INT ratio with a 64.7% completion rate. Hoyer is at 11:12 and .554. There are more advanced stats than those, but you can stop there with these 2 guys. Orton is not good, Hoyer is worse.
Just Jack Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 On 12/8/2014 at 2:18 AM, jboyst62 said: Idea of the year: February in Downtown Cleveland at Gund Arena. Hoyer v. Manziel in an MMA match. With special guest referee, Bernie Kosar.
nucci Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 On 12/8/2014 at 1:56 AM, Stopthepain said: Did I hear Hoyer wants to try the free agent market? I'll take him barring someone better. I think he easily trumps the QB staff on board at the moment. Really? Do you watch him play? On 12/8/2014 at 2:24 AM, Stopthepain said: Yeah! We need Kyle Orton or possibly EJ Manuel! A pair of real WINNERS! No, but Hoyer is not much, if any better than either one
White Linen Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 On 12/8/2014 at 3:09 AM, Stopthepain said: I hear you. How about Cutler? Keep in mind statistically speaking we have pretty much the worst QB performance in the league this year. I admit Hoyer is a very modest improvement. Statistically, Cutler is a huge improvement. And yet he is a middling talent as well that is never going to take anyone, anywhere, ever. It's a tough nut to crack. Jay Cutler certainly has his issues especially with decision making centered around when to not throw a ball. He has a gift of an arm and he lets his talent override his mind. In saying that, on this team he would be in the playoffs and I don't think it's debatable. That's how good I think the rest of our team is.
Freddie's Dead Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) On 12/8/2014 at 1:48 AM, Mr. WEO said: Refs fisting! QBs fisting! Keep your porn preferences to yourself Edited December 8, 2014 by Fred Jackson Jockstrap
Mr. WEO Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) On 12/8/2014 at 3:17 AM, Stopthepain said: Statistically he's worse; but they are very close, middling talents. Wrong On 12/8/2014 at 9:50 PM, Fred Jackson Jockstrap said: Keep your porn preferences to yourself Hey---I got that in an email from our GM! Edited December 8, 2014 by Mr. WEO
YoloinOhio Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 On 12/8/2014 at 1:56 AM, Stopthepain said: Did I hear Hoyer wants to try the free agent market? I'll take him barring someone better. I think he easily trumps the QB staff on board at the moment. no. No. Please no. He is like EJ in Houston bad.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 there is sideline tape of Jonny Futball what did Johnny Football say? One lip-reading of Manziel had him saying, “I would have f------ hit him.” meaning the receiver http://www.csnbaltimore.com/blog/ravens-talk/browns-manziel-doesnt-look-so-supportive-hoyer
YoloinOhio Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 On 12/9/2014 at 12:26 AM, BillsFan-4-Ever said: there is sideline tape of Jonny Futball what did Johnny Football say? One lip-reading of Manziel had him saying, “I would have f------ hit him.” meaning the receiver http://www.csnbaltimore.com/blog/ravens-talk/browns-manziel-doesnt-look-so-supportive-hoyer there is a dust up over the fact that he arrived at the game at 11 yesterday. That is technically all players need to be there, but most of them are there much earlier and QBs by 9 or 9:30.
YoloinOhio Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 On 12/9/2014 at 12:37 AM, BillsFan-4-Ever said: which he? Hoyer or JF? JF
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