Fezmid Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/02/nude.jui...r.ap/index.html
Tux of Borg Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 Three words... The American dream. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: Citizens Against Nude Juicebars, Pornography, and the Bill of Rights.
silvermike Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 "There's a line between right and wrong," Pulse says. "And it seems like anymore nowadays that line has got all jumbled up." I don't know - I think devoting your life to photographing people coming out of a nude juice bar is probably on the wrong side of the line. I mean, seriously...GET A JOB. Hair Salon owner? Maybe you should put some more hours in down there.
Alaska Darin Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 Hair Salon owner? Maybe you should put some more hours in down there. 226612[/snapback] Perhaps all the sheep were shorn?
SDS Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 I dunno.... do you really want to drink the JUICE in that kind of place?
Mark VI Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 I like juice. Is there a problem? 226616[/snapback] Roadtrip, B !
IDBillzFan Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 It's REALLY good juice! 226624[/snapback] Definitely not from concentrate.
buckeyemike Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 I guess they couldn't come up with a better anagram. CANJAP? Seriously, it seems that the laws are aimed at the owner of this nudie bar/establishment. Courts have traditionally erred on the side of caution in these situations, giving leeway to the owners of such places over the community interests. It's interesting how no one ever asks the women who dance at these places how they feel about what they do. Do the women enjoy the work? Do they dance to please the men who visit? Or is it all about the money? I'm not the world's greatest defender of such places (the last time I went to one was in the mid-90s), but they do have the right to exist...probably in the middle of a cornfield, like in South Dakota. Mike
silvermike Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 I mean, here's the thing: What's the worst that could happen? I mean, I can imagine a strip club being somewhat unseemly in your neighborhood, but you get over it - there's on on Hertel and Voorhees for crying out loud, and it remains a pleasant, residential neighborhood. People don't come out of strip clubs and molest children, at worst, they come out and spend money at local restaurants. Like any other kind of nightclub. And if you're worried you can trust your husband/father/son with one of those things around, well, deal with that in your family, not with the government.
SDS Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 I mean, here's the thing: What's the worst that could happen? 226635[/snapback] drive down property values - that might not be the case in this story, but I don't want one in my neighborhood. I'll pass on the methadone clinic as well.
Fezmid Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 drive down property values - that might not be the case in this story, but I don't want one in my neighborhood. I'll pass on the methadone clinic as well. 226639[/snapback] True story: My wife manages a drug treatment facility, and it's right near downtown Minneapolis. Some developer just put in some REALLY nice condos in that area, right across the street. The condos are selling for over $1,000,000... And what do the owners get to see when they look out the window? (rehabilitating) Drug addicts smoking in the parking lot... After seeing that, I'm not sure I buy the property value argument, although I would've agreed wholeheartedly a year or two ago. On the other hand, I question why the people spent that much money on the condos in that neighborhood anyway... CW
Alaska Darin Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 True story: My wife manages a drug treatment facility, and it's right near downtown Minneapolis. Some developer just put in some REALLY nice condos in that area, right across the street. The condos are selling for over $1,000,000... And what do the owners get to see when they look out the window? (rehabilitating) Drug addicts smoking in the parking lot... After seeing that, I'm not sure I buy the property value argument, although I would've agreed wholeheartedly a year or two ago. On the other hand, I question why the people spent that much money on the condos in that neighborhood anyway... CW 226642[/snapback] Condos are different from houses.
Fezmid Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 Condos are different from houses. 226650[/snapback] How do you figure, aside from the fact that they have no yard? They're still purchased by the people living in them. CW
Alaska Darin Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 How do you figure, aside from the fact that they have no yard? They're still purchased by the people living in them. CW 226651[/snapback] They generally aren't owned by family people (speaking for that high dollar amount) - no kids, lotsa money - always on the go. They don't socialize with their neighbors much. The building will have a ton of security so they'll be well insulated from the riffraff. When one of them decides to make an issue of the "neighborhood", the politicos will make the problem disappear to another area where the residents don't have as much clout. Watch and see.
Fezmid Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 They generally aren't owned by family people (speaking for that high dollar amount) - no kids, lotsa money - always on the go. They don't socialize with their neighbors much. The building will have a ton of security so they'll be well insulated from the riffraff. When one of them decides to make an issue of the "neighborhood", the politicos will make the problem disappear to another area where the residents don't have as much clout. Watch and see. 226655[/snapback] Good points; most of them are doctors and lawyers and such. I know the developers have alerady made an offer to my wife's company to buy the land, but they're not offering enough for the company to be able to buy land/buildings elsewhere. I guess I wouldn't be surprised to see an offer come in later. However, I doubt the government would get involved. Of course, you never can tell. CW
NorCal Aaron Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 I know the developers have alerady made an offer to my wife's company to buy the land, but they're not offering enough for the company to be able to buy land/buildings elsewhere. 226662[/snapback] I lived on Nicollette 10 years ago and wonder what street has million dollar condos.
Fezmid Posted February 2, 2005 Author Posted February 2, 2005 I'd have to ask my wife for sure, but I'm pretty sure it's on Portland Ave. http://rseden.nonprofitoffice.com/index.as...2-05107582507E} CW
NorCal Aaron Posted February 2, 2005 Posted February 2, 2005 I'd have to ask my wife for sure, but I'm pretty sure it's on Portland Ave. http://rseden.nonprofitoffice.com/index.as...2-05107582507E} CW 226675[/snapback] go figure.
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