26CornerBlitz Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) In the past two games St. Doug has gone for it on 4th down as opposed to not in the critical KC and MIA games where he should have. Has he come around to being more aggressive on 4th down inside opponents territory? Sure seems so to me and it's about damned time. Edited December 2, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 They were just waiting on this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I was going to mention this as well...I believe Marrone has taken positive steps in this regard over the past two weeks. One could argue yesterday's game was the best-coached of his tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Fire this dinosaur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) I was going to mention this as well...I believe Marrone has taken positive steps in this regard over the past two weeks. One could argue yesterday's game was the best-coached of his tenure. I thought he was well tuned into the flow of the game. Going for it on fourth down was more about having confidence in his defense than it was having confidence in his offense. It was the performance of the stifling defense that allowed this cautious coach to extend his boundaries of risk taking. Edited December 1, 2014 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 They were just waiting on this guy. Who is this? It says Bryce Brown in the background, but if htat's him, he looks different without a helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 easy to say now but with all the attention this got after the Miami game I would have bet the house he would have went for it in the Jets game if the situation presented itself I was surprised he went for it yesterday, i fully expected a punt to pin them deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmoove Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) I honestly think he was listening to the fans and all the harping which is a bad move if it's true. Edited December 1, 2014 by bschmoove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 He was crucified by the national media and so changed. I think it's sad that he is reactionary like that and couldn't make the right decisions absent media scrutiny. But I will take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I honestly think he was listening to the fans and all the harping which is a bad move if it's true. If fan pressure is what it took to get him to cure his rectocephaly, then more power to us. "If you start listening to the fans, pretty soon you'll be sitting with them" - Marvcus Levy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I don't think so at all. He's conservative on the issue. But the one Sunday was a no brainer, and he would have done the same thing earlier in the year. He's not against going for it, he's just a conservative coach. They had already decided before the game that if they got right to that part of the field they were going for it. I would imagine every coach in the league would go for it in that specific situation at that specific spot at home on a windy day with our defense playing the way it was. It was at the 37 yard line. To me, that call was absolutely zero indication whatsoever that Marrone has changed his attitude toward 4th down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I don't think so at all. He's conservative on the issue. But the one Sunday was a no brainer, and he would have done the same thing earlier in the year. He's not against going for it, he's just a conservative coach. They had already decided before the game that if they got right to that part of the field they were going for it. I would imagine every coach in the league would go for it in that specific situation at that specific spot at home on a windy day with our defense playing the way it was. It was at the 37 yard line. To me, that call was absolutely zero indication whatsoever that Marrone has changed his attitude toward 4th down. With our offense and defense, I don't think being conservative on fourth down is the wrong way to go, in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 In the past two games St. Doug has gone for it on 4th down as opposed to not in the critical KC and MIA games where he should have. Has he come around to being more aggressive on 4th down inside opponents territory? Sure seems so to me and it's about damn time. Hopefully, Although he did punt inside the 50 on 4rth and 2 and felt he should have went for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 With our offense and defense, I don't think being conservative on fourth down is the wrong way to go, in general. I disagree sunshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 With our offense and defense, I don't think being conservative on fourth down is the wrong way to go, in general. I disagree too. Don't put your defense in a bad spot. Make them go farther. Punting has been ok. And if the offense sucks on third down why should we expect them to be better on fourth down. Fourth and 1 QB sneak like Brady every time is fine with me. Otherwise conservative is ok with this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) I disagree too. Don't put your defense in a bad spot. Make them go farther. Punting has been ok. And if the offense sucks on third down why should we expect them to be better on fourth down. Fourth and 1 QB sneak like Brady every time is fine with me. Otherwise conservative is ok with this defense. Why shouldn't aving a strong defense make a coach more willing to go for it on 4th down? If you don't make it, then your defense can probably get a stop anyway. And doesn't a weak offense benefit from having an extra down to move the chains? Edited December 2, 2014 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I thought he was well tuned into the flow of the game. Going for it on fourth down was more about having confidence in his defense than it was having confidence in his offense. It was the performance of the stifling defense that allowed this cautious coach to extend his boundaries of risk taking. I ask a serious question here....I just do not understand the reasoning here. And i hear it alot. I think going for it on 4th on positive side of the field is almost aslways a no brainer( i think a lot more than that, but i will keep to positive side of field now). Seems to me, if my defense was playing lights out, if you want to an argument to punt, you make it then. Pin them deep, get better field position, better position for field goal etc. If my D is getting torn and the opposing Offense is making plays...i need to score touchdowns and posses the ball for as long as i can. To me, it seems as if the argument for going for it 0n 4th is when your D sucks, not when you have the D the Bills have. Again, to emphasize, i am in the ALWAYS go for it camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I disagree too. Don't put your defense in a bad spot. Make them go farther. Punting has been ok. And if the offense sucks on third down why should we expect them to be better on fourth down. Fourth and 1 QB sneak like Brady every time is fine with me. Otherwise conservative is ok with this defense. So you agree? Why'd you say you disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) I ask a serious question here....I just do not understand the reasoning here. And i hear it alot. I think going for it on 4th on positive side of the field is almost aslways a no brainer( i think a lot more than that, but i will keep to positive side of field now). Seems to me, if my defense was playing lights out, if you want to an argument to punt, you make it then. Pin them deep, get better field position, better position for field goal etc. If my D is getting torn and the opposing Offense is making plays...i need to score touchdowns and posses the ball for as long as i can. To me, it seems as if the argument for going for it 0n 4th is when your D sucks, not when you have the D the Bills have. Again, to emphasize, i am in the ALWAYS go for it camp. Marrone is cautious by nature with regard to taking risks on fourth down. If he has a defense that has suffocated the opposition then the risk of not making a first down on a fourth down try is potentially less damaging. That's simply my point. Edited December 2, 2014 by JohnC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Marrone is cautious by nature with regard to taking risks on fourth down. If he has a defense that has suffocated the opposition then the risk of not making a first down on a fourth down try is potentially less damaging. That's simply my point. I'm hoping he's much more aggressive this week vs. Denver because settling for FGs and punting inside Broncos' territory on 4th down to give Manning additional possessions is a losing recipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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