FireChan Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 He did likely hurt him bad but IMO his style of play combined with his physique was never going to last in the NFL under any coach. He's way too slender to play the game he plays, and without the running, teams wouldn't play against him like they did when he was a rookie and let him stand back there and throw. That's possible, no doubt, but there was always a chance he could get lucky and stay healthy. When Shanny sent him out there again, he doomed him. I don't care if "he said he could play," he's a 21 year old idiot.
plenzmd1 Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Funny, was just coming to post this article. Very funny for the Sports Bog in the POst, regarding the atmosphere at the Redskins game yesterday. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/11/17/what-it-was-like-in-the-stands-during-the-redskins-loss-to-tampa-bay/?hpid=z5
YoloinOhio Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 @ProFootballTalk: Washington coach Jay Gruden calls out @RGIII for in-game performance, post-game remarks http://t.co/O1GbXrKS4o
truth on hold Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 @ProFootballTalk: Washington coach Jay Gruden calls out @RGIII for in-game performance, post-game remarks http://t.co/O1GbXrKS4o Gotta believe if not for pressure from the owner, colt McCoy would still be starting
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 I recall plenty of Bills fans calling them inept for not taking Austin! He was a pre-draft favorite here. EVERYBODY is a pre-draft favorite, here. Every year, we, as fans, pick 250 players in the draft, and then when 3-5 of them that the Bills did not pick start to do well, the Bills get called incompetent for only picking 7 guys. Idiots.
bbb Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Biggest price-adjusted bust of all time? Not sure there's much of an argument there....Leaf/Jamarcus did not cost nearly the same. The Red Hued Native Americans and their owner are a dumpster fire of epic proportions. Their brilliant 2 QB draft - shat the bed and they now have DeSean going unfiltered which is always fun if you're not on that team. Gotta love that Snyder let this kid feel comfortable going over the 2-time SB winning HC's head. Better them than us for once! There is no way I can ever call this a bust. Before he got hurt, most everybody was saying what a great trade it was, and how stupid the Rams were. It's all been downhill since that playoff game. What a mess. I really thought he was going to be great. I would still do that trade every time.
Mr. WEO Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 Mike Shanahan actually ruined this kids career. Actually, it now seems more clear than ever that he didn't.
NoSaint Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 While I am not agreeing with the OP, I understand the concept. He's talking about paying three number ones and a number two and 21 million guarantee vs. Jamarcus one number one and 32 mil guarantee. For further perspective on the dollars rg3 is 21m for 4 years. Jamarcus pulled in roughly 40m in 3 years (one of which was shortened by holdout). His career coming to an end over 300 lbs and lying to coaches about studying film while he went to Vegas. JR came in at 1.6m per start with a qb rating of 65. while rg3 is already below 1m for the duration of his deal with a season and a half to go and has a qb rating over 90.
FireChan Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Actually, it now seems more clear than ever that he didn't. Elaborate.
vincec Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 I suspect that if he went to Philly to play for Chip Kelly he would be an all pro within 2 seasons. His skill set fits that offense perfectly
reddogblitz Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 THE ONLY WAY Robert has a chance as an NFL QB is to become a pocket passer. Running QBs have a short life in the NFL. The read option was a one hit wonder. It's almost as dead as the wild cat. Other running QBs have made the transition and done well such as Donovan McNabb and Randall Cunningham. Randall would have made it to the SB as a pocket passer if only Mosley could hit a FG.
bbb Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Anderson. Gary Anderson...........Getting his karma.
metzelaars_lives Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 THE ONLY WAY Robert has a chance as an NFL QB is to become a pocket passer. Running QBs have a short life in the NFL. The read option was a one hit wonder. It's almost as dead as the wild cat. Other running QBs have made the transition and done well such as Donovan McNabb and Randall Cunningham. Randall would have made it to the SB as a pocket passer if only Mosley could hit a FG. mark mosley? Wrong decade. How weird is it that mark mosley actually won an nfl mvp?
bbb Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 I bet that's how he mixed it up. Didn't Mosely not miss a kick that year, and Anderson didn't miss one until that fateful kick?
plenzmd1 Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 I bet that's how he mixed it up. Didn't Mosely not miss a kick that year, and Anderson didn't miss one until that fateful kick? not sure about Mosely, but think you nailed it on Anderson
prissythecat Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Actually, it now seems more clear than ever that he didn't. Elaborate. I think WEO is implying that the Shanahans were geniuses for managing to make RGIII look good for one season by coming up with a scheme that would mask his inability to run a traditional offense.
Mr. WEO Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Elaborate. He was injured at the end of his rookie year (for the second time). He had surgery. He came back in 2013 and was mediocre at best and was replaced by the end of the season. This year he again has proven fragile AND ineffective--all without Shanahan's involvement. Turns out this guy isn't fit for the NFL game. Had one really good year of college ball though...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Cuz there are no Rams fans here, and, besides, it wouldn't fit the narrative that the Buffalo Bills are the most inept franchise ever! Wait, there are Redskins fans here?
FireChan Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) He was injured at the end of his rookie year (for the second time). He had surgery. He came back in 2013 and was mediocre at best and was replaced by the end of the season. This year he again has proven fragile AND ineffective--all without Shanahan's involvement. Turns out this guy isn't fit for the NFL game. Had one really good year of college ball though... Okay. Those things are all true. But you're missing one crucial part. He has looked timid and slow ever since he got hurt in the playoffs because of Shanny. I think we all expected a drop off after that great first year, but his injury has left him a shell of himself. RG3 again played in 2013 not fully healthy. Edited November 18, 2014 by FireChan
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