boyst Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 I really hoped this kid would succeed. Before the NFL it was a feel good story. He is nice funny, articulate, courteous and mature. He was someone you'd cheer for because of his character. Since coming in to the league all you've heard is how much of a brat people think he is and how awful he has been playing. Maybe he will end up like Mark Sanchez at some point or completely come from no where one year like Todd Collins 15 years from now. He is simply someone you should cheer for.
papazoid Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 Robert Griffin III is a spoiled diva who cares more about branding himself than winning ... so says a Washington Redskins player who tells us he's not the only one in the locker room who feels this way. 'No One Believes In Him Anymore' Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/06/redskins-players-blasts-rg3-diva-robert-griffin-iii/#ixzz3L7fJLUvs
JohnC Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) I really hoped this kid would succeed. Before the NFL it was a feel good story. He is nice funny, articulate, courteous and mature. He was someone you'd cheer for because of his character. Since coming in to the league all you've heard is how much of a brat people think he is and how awful he has been playing. Maybe he will end up like Mark Sanchez at some point or completely come from no where one year like Todd Collins 15 years from now. He is simply someone you should cheer for. The criticisms that he is receiving from his current HC is the same criticisms he received from the prior HC and his son, the OC. His former HC, Shanahan, is an old-school hard ass coach. But he knows how to coach qbs and he knows how to orchestrate an effective offense. Shanahan knew right from the beginning that RGIII was a work in progress and needed to evolve his game. But the friction came when RGIII was not receptive to what Shanahan was telling him. With RGIII everything with the HC was personal when in reality it simply was part of the process of coaching a player up. The problem wasn't Shanahan but it was his own insecurities.. The majority of the fans, the coaching staff, even the formerly supportive front office, the local sport reporters are tired of his diva act .He is a very self-centered person who has little understanding on how his behavior affects others. His constant stream of inane tweets aggravated everyone. Yet he can't stop his constant flow of tweets that are a source of controversy. No one is suggesting RHIII is a bad person because he is not. But without a doubt he is a misguided person. RGIII the performer on the field is a disaster. His benching is the best thing that could happen to him At this poinr he is a battered player and person. He might get back on the field before the season is over but that isn't what is going to salvage his fading career. He needs to dedicate himself to properly working on his game, stressing the mental side of the game from which he is now clueless. He needs to get is priorities straight. The irony is that his success in his rookie year deluded him into thinking that he had all the answers. It didn't take very long before he was faced with the reality of not being fully prepared for the NFL that takes advantange of the players' limitations. What RGIII's rookie year demonstrated to everyone is that he has extraordinary talent. He throws a beautfifull ball and is a terrific athelete. However, if you don't advance your game you regress. And that is exactly what happened to him while he was busy doing the star circuit in the offseason instead of studying film. If RGIII had the character and work ethic of EJ he would be would have few problems. The predicament he is in is the predicament that he created for himself because of his self destructive and insufferable inflated ego. Edited December 6, 2014 by JohnC
starrymessenger Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 Great post John. But I think you confuse "great athleticism" with "talent" (for playing the position). In a world where all the players are above average athletically, there is little if any correlation between the two. How many starting QBs are known principally for their athleticism? How many genuine franchise guys?
Tyrod's Tailor Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 Robert Griffin III is a spoiled diva who cares more about branding himself than winning ... so says a Washington Redskins player who tells us he's not the only one in the locker room who feels this way. 'No One Believes In Him Anymore' Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2.../#ixzz3L7fJLUvs Washington Post says it's likely DeSean Jackson leaking the info to TMZ. Bwahahaha
JohnC Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 Great post John. But I think you confuse "great athleticism" with "talent" (for playing the position). In a world where all the players are above average athletically, there is little if any correlation between the two. How many starting QBs are known principally for their athleticism? How many genuine franchise guys? One of my primary points in the prior post was that especially at the qb position you have to go beyond your athleticism and learn how to play the position. It was never going to be an easy transition from mostly physically reacting in college to learning how to read defenses and make plays from the pocket in the pros. The center of criticism is not that he is merely struggling to learn how to play in a pro style offeense but that he hasn't dedicated himself to learning that critical aspect of his position. Not only was he non-receptive to what Shanahan was trying to teach him but he went so far as to publicly and privately attempt to undermine the HC who was trying to help him. Kaepernick is also have problems learning how to adjust his game. He like RGIII had initial success using his athleticism to perform well. But at least he is not ignoring and resisting what his coaches are telling him. It is not an easy adjustment for a qb prospect to transition from the college to the pro game. But you are guaranteed to fail if you go your own way without accepting the coaching that is there to help you learn how to play in the pro ranks.
starrymessenger Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 One of my primary points in the prior post was that especially at the qb position you have to go beyond your athleticism and learn how to play the position. It was never going to be an easy transition from mostly physically reacting in college to learning how to read defenses and make plays from the pocket in the pros. The center of criticism is not that he is merely struggling to learn how to play in a pro style offeense but that he hasn't dedicated himself to learning that critical aspect of his position. Not only was he non-receptive to what Shanahan was trying to teach him but he went so far as to publicly and privately attempt to undermine the HC who was trying to help him. Kaepernick is also have problems learning how to adjust his game. He like RGIII had initial success using his athleticism to perform well. But at least he is not ignoring and resisting what his coaches are telling him. It is not an easy adjustment for a qb prospect to transition from the college to the pro game. But you are guaranteed to fail if you go your own way without accepting the coaching that is there to help you learn how to play in the pro ranks. Gotcha. I was quibbling over your use of the word talent. I gather that you meant it to be read as synonymous with throwing a beautiful ball and being a terrific athlete rather than ability as a pro quarterback. Thanks for clarifying that for my benefit. In my view being a world class athlete is way down in the laundry list of things that make up a franchise quarterback, the things that RG3 badly lacks. It is, in effect, only a nice to have and to be lightly weighted as a factor in envisioning the total package.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 This outcome would not surprise me one bit. @ProFootballTalk Report: Snyder, Allen may side with RG3 and fire Gruden http://wp.me/p14QSB-9Ems
D521646 Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 Wouldn't surprise me either, sad to say. Tim-
papazoid Posted December 6, 2014 Posted December 6, 2014 This outcome would not surprise me one bit. @ProFootballTalk Report: Snyder, Allen may side with RG3 and fire Gruden http://wp.me/p14QSB-9Ems snyder worried jerah trying to take the worst owner crown from him.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Fisher trolls RGIII trade The St. Louis Rams acquired six contributors in the blockbuster RGIII trade with the Redskins. Rams coach Jeff Fisher sent all six players to midfield for the pregame coin toss on Sunday.
KD in CA Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 Fisher trolls RGIII trade I could see it if they were bitter rivals, but as it is I don't understand why Jeff Fisher would choose to embarrass a player whose career is imploding. Pretty classless if you ask me.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 I could see it if they were bitter rivals, but as it is I don't understand why Jeff Fisher would choose to embarrass a player whose career is imploding. Pretty classless if you ask me. I think he's trolling the organization.
KD in CA Posted December 8, 2014 Posted December 8, 2014 I think he's trolling the organization. I do too, but I think he's been around the block enough times to know how it will play in public. The Redskins don't need to be reminded how badly they !@#$ed up.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2014 Posted December 15, 2014 Redskins plan to start RGIII vs. Eagles
papazoid Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 Washington Redskins head coach Jay Gruden will be back with the organization in the same capacity next season, according to Dianna Russini of NBC4 Washington. http://www.csnwashington.com/redskinsblog/report-gruden-informed-fate-next-season?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
OCinBuffalo Posted December 16, 2014 Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) Fisher trolls RGIII trade The next time we play the Rams, we should send only Kiko for the coin toss. But tell him it's a drill, the coin is the ball...and, that's it. See what he does to the Rams, refs, and whoever else is standing around. Meanwhile, EJ, Goodwin and Gragg can wave to Tavon Austin and TJ McDonald and say: "Thanks for playing in St, Louis for us, guys"! EDIT: And, I would love to dig up all the RG3 trade/draft Cousins = brilliant posts, my responses to them, and all the rest of the unmitigated idiocy....but what is the point? Every clown who called this trade "awesome" knows who they are. And, one more thing: let's try and remember that, once and for all, "the draft value chart is no longer used" '= a rational reason for the RG3 trade. The draft value chart is still utilized. Whether RG3 will still be utilized after this season remains to be seen. Edited December 16, 2014 by OCinBuffalo
26CornerBlitz Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Gruden: Redskins need a lead so RGIII won't have to drop back Jay Gruden needs his team to get out in front for plenty of reasons, but especially so Robert Griffin III doesn't have to make reads and drop back. During a routine explanation on the importance of first- and second-down yardage on Tuesday, Gruden seemed to take another shot at his supposed franchise quarterback, one that has been vaulted in and out of the starting lineup throughout Gruden's short tenure in Washington.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 20, 2014 Posted December 20, 2014 RGIII likely to stay with 'Skins in '15 Jay Gruden feels good about his chances to return to D.C. next season year, and according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport, so should Robert Griffin III. The maligned quarterback, who has been benched several times already this year and was subject to some pretty pointed criticisms by Gruden himself, is likely to remain in Washington. Gruden, as it turns out, really doesn't care who is quarterback is, as long as it's someone who can handle the system.
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