YellowLinesandArmadillos Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Just a note, There is a lot of Brain research going on at those hospitals up there. My youngest son was diagnosed at The Children's Hospital that is part of Beth Israel Deaconess as having a rare neuro migration issue and is moderately delayed. Kids with a more severe form scarily have a very short life expectency. They are studying these kids with some hope of stem cell treatment that if successful may have wide ranging application to treat traumatic brain and spinal cord injuries as well as things like demensia. Darryl is in very good hands. Edited December 4, 2014 by North Buffalo1
ChevyVanMiller Posted December 3, 2014 Author Posted December 3, 2014 Just went over $150,000. Truly amazing. http://www.gofundme.com/hvkgjo
Canadian Bills Fan Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Wow.... Who would have imagined.... This is amazing! Chevy, how long is this on for? Any update about if DT will accept the money? CBF Edited December 3, 2014 by Canadian Bills Fan
TheFunPolice Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 this money would help Talley and his family so much.... It would mean a lot more to Talley and his family and their ability to pay their bills and pay for medical care than it would to some huge foundation where it would evaporate into some huge budget somewhere I hope he accepts it in the spirit with which it was given.
Mr. WEO Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Yep. DT appears to have made some unfortunate financial decisions but with the best intentions; something many people have done and not something anyone should hold against him. People who disagree are free to not contribute, but shouldn't have anything to say about those who choose to do so. The big $150,000 is right around the corner. I donated, but as important as the money is to get DT out from under, it would be much more meaningful and beneficial for someone to sit him and his wife down to figure out how they are going to live after this money is gone. If she doesn't work, she needs to consider some type of job while DT is still very functional. Even better would be some type of work for DT himself. I would think with the early stages of CTE, mental stimulation would be the best form of therapy (there is no treatment for CTE, per se). If some fatcat business person/dodnor (or even better, the Bills) could employ him, he would have some financial stability and have structure each day to stay as mentally sharp as he can. I understand his phyiscal limitations, but perhaps those would also improve with a regular schedule of tasks. Also, maybe someone could donate financial planning services for the couple. Their current living circumstances don't seem to acknowledge their current financial circumstances. Move off the golf course and head back to Buffalo! Wouldn't it be great if the Bills, instead of tossing him some money, provided him with some sort of caoching spot, even peripherally? They have a ton of position coaches and subcoaches and assistants. Get DT on the payroll. He's on twitter a lot and still seems sharp as far as the game is played. This could be a win-win for the Bills. Just giving DT money when he has hit hard times is probably a precedent they do not want to set.
ChevyVanMiller Posted December 3, 2014 Author Posted December 3, 2014 Wow.... Who would have imagined.... This is amazing! Chevy, how long is this on for? Any update about if DT will accept the money? CBF Talleys will make the call in both instances. I would expect an announcement once they return from Boston.
KD in CA Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 I donated, but as important as the money is to get DT out from under, it would be much more meaningful and beneficial for someone to sit him and his wife down to figure out how they are going to live after this money is gone. If she doesn't work, she needs to consider some type of job while DT is still very functional. Even better would be some type of work for DT himself. I would think with the early stages of CTE, mental stimulation would be the best form of therapy (there is no treatment for CTE, per se). If some fatcat business person/dodnor (or even better, the Bills) could employ him, he would have some financial stability and have structure each day to stay as mentally sharp as he can. I understand his phyiscal limitations, but perhaps those would also improve with a regular schedule of tasks. Also, maybe someone could donate financial planning services for the couple. Their current living circumstances don't seem to acknowledge their current financial circumstances. Move off the golf course and head back to Buffalo! Wouldn't it be great if the Bills, instead of tossing him some money, provided him with some sort of caoching spot, even peripherally? They have a ton of position coaches and subcoaches and assistants. Get DT on the payroll. He's on twitter a lot and still seems sharp as far as the game is played. This could be a win-win for the Bills. Just giving DT money when he has hit hard times is probably a precedent they do not want to set. Great point. Reading about the cashed in pension and 401(k) in a futile effort to save his business is heart breaking. Certainly done with the best intentions but just a horrible financial decision. The refusal of our "leaders" in government to teach people basic financial knowledge and common sense is our country's biggest and least talked about problem. It makes my blood boil.
ChevyVanMiller Posted December 3, 2014 Author Posted December 3, 2014 Darryl just texted me from Boston and said, "This is a blessing," when he was told the fund had surpassed $150,000. His tests continue tomorrow.
Rubes Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Darryl just texted me from Boston and said, "This is a blessing," when he was told the fund had surpassed $150,000. His tests continue tomorrow. Sweet!
Mr. WEO Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Great point. Reading about the cashed in pension and 401(k) in a futile effort to save his business is heart breaking. Certainly done with the best intentions but just a horrible financial decision. The refusal of our "leaders" in government to teach people basic financial knowledge and common sense is our country's biggest and least talked about problem. It makes my blood boil. There is no amount of government intervention that will prevent individuals from making poor financial decisions. That is not government's role.
ChevyVanMiller Posted December 4, 2014 Author Posted December 4, 2014 One of the best columns written about the amazing response to Darryl by Bills Nation. http://mashable.com/2014/12/03/buffalo-bills-fans-darryl-talley/
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 There is no amount of government intervention that will prevent individuals from making poor financial decisions. That is not government's role. Doesn't stop them from trying. Seen the new HUD-1 yet?
bbb Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I donated, but as important as the money is to get DT out from under, it would be much more meaningful and beneficial for someone to sit him and his wife down to figure out how they are going to live after this money is gone. If she doesn't work, she needs to consider some type of job while DT is still very functional. Even better would be some type of work for DT himself. I would think with the early stages of CTE, mental stimulation would be the best form of therapy (there is no treatment for CTE, per se). If some fatcat business person/dodnor (or even better, the Bills) could employ him, he would have some financial stability and have structure each day to stay as mentally sharp as he can. I understand his phyiscal limitations, but perhaps those would also improve with a regular schedule of tasks. Also, maybe someone could donate financial planning services for the couple. Their current living circumstances don't seem to acknowledge their current financial circumstances. Move off the golf course and head back to Buffalo! Wouldn't it be great if the Bills, instead of tossing him some money, provided him with some sort of caoching spot, even peripherally? They have a ton of position coaches and subcoaches and assistants. Get DT on the payroll. He's on twitter a lot and still seems sharp as far as the game is played. This could be a win-win for the Bills. Just giving DT money when he has hit hard times is probably a precedent they do not want to set. Wow - I have thought every single one of those thoughts in the last week! Totally agree on all of them. My friend told me back in the 90s that I should start a business with helping the Bills just keep their financial house in order. He had had one of our stars threaten him, as an insurance claims guy, because they wouldn't pay anything on his wrecked car - because he hadn't paid the premiums in a year! These guys need somebody who knows how to manage money helping them.
May Day 10 Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) There is no amount of government intervention that will prevent individuals from making poor financial decisions. That is not government's role. I think you are incorrect, or at least speaking too broadly. Personal Finance isn't mentioned in curriculum at any age, which is very strange to me. This is the most important premise of our society. Bad financial habits and/or ignorance is passed down from parents, who are often ignorant themselves as they were never taught. Personally, I grew up lower-middle class. Didnt have nice things, but finances were never taught to me, and I was just "forbidden" from having credit in any way. Whether it was BMG, Columbia House, etc. Parents didnt own any Credit Cards... Then once I went away to college and in my mid-20s, I was on my own and able to acquire Credit Cards. I remember my first one was a Sabres one I signed up for to get a free towel or something. I did some damage for sure with a series of bad decisions and learning as I go... touching hot stoves a few times. I had to spend a decent portion of my late 20s digging out. Im lucky though. I didnt even do a fraction of the damage that could be easily done. Mid 20s I did some reading on the topic to figure it out and I would say I am pretty to very good with money now. I just wished I would have been taught in High School. I would have really liked to have been able to save properly when I was 20-25 and also not pay any interest to a CC or a Car Loan... I know once you have it figured out it SEEMS like common sense... but not a lot of people are there. Edited December 4, 2014 by May Day 10
BuffaloBill Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 My interview on WBEN this morning: http://media.wben.com/a/99695817/crowd-funding-effort-to-help-darryl-talley-frank-croisdale.htm Very cool and thank you for your efforts
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I think you are incorrect, or at least speaking too broadly. Personal Finance isn't mentioned in curriculum at any age, which is very strange to me. This is the most important premise of our society. Bad financial habits and/or ignorance is passed down from parents, who are often ignorant themselves as they were never taught. Personally, I grew up lower-middle class. Didnt have nice things, but finances were never taught to me, and I was just "forbidden" from having credit in any way. Whether it was BMG, Columbia House, etc. Parents didnt own any Credit Cards... Then once I went away to college and in my mid-20s, I was on my own and able to acquire Credit Cards. I remember my first one was a Sabres one I signed up for to get a free towel or something. I did some damage for sure with a series of bad decisions and learning as I go... touching hot stoves a few times. I had to spend a decent portion of my late 20s digging out. Im lucky though. I didnt even do a fraction of the damage that could be easily done. Mid 20s I did some reading on the topic to figure it out and I would say I am pretty to very good with money now. I just wished I would have been taught in High School. I would have really liked to have been able to save properly when I was 20-25 and also not pay any interest to a CC or a Car Loan... I know once you have it figured out it SEEMS like common sense... but not a lot of people are there. Can the government really teach you not to abuse a credit card? Does it really have to? How would it go about this? The people who get into trouble with credit, etc, are going to do so no matter how much instruction you give them prior to them getting credit. Regardless, DT was a grown man, not a 20-something college student, when he made those busines decisions. He knew the risks for sure.
May Day 10 Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) its not just CC though. Thinking of long term future, thinking short term with the 6 months emergency fund, different vehicles for savings and advantages and disadvantages with long term and short term, interest rates, ways to shield you money and earnings from taxes, how to buy a car, a house/property, insurance, how never ever use a company like Rent-A-Center, etc. This is the way our world goes around and most Americans just aren't taught these things. It is the most important and useful knowledge we can have... much moreso than The Boxer Rebellion. I was required to take Choir in High School for 2 years and this isn't available? I know in my case, If I was properly instructed on these things I would be much better off now (doing fine, but I mean even better with a nice head start). I cant imagine how many people dont get things in order and educate themselves and keep messing up and going bankrupt, defaulting, etc. I think in a typical High School curriculum, a year or 2 of personal finance class should be a no-brainer. Maybe even plant some seeds younger This is off-topic though. Not sure it would make a difference with Talley or a number of other entertainers/athletes who run out of money and earning potential. I just mean in general. Edited December 4, 2014 by May Day 10
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 its not just CC though. Thinking of long term future, thinking short term with the 6 months emergency fund, different vehicles for savings and advantages and disadvantages with long term and short term, interest rates, ways to shield you money and earnings from taxes, how to buy a car, a house/property, insurance, how never ever use a company like Rent-A-Center, etc. This is the way our world goes around and most Americans just aren't taught these things. It is the most important and useful knowledge we can have... much moreso than The Boxer Rebellion. I was required to take Choir in High School for 2 years and this isn't available? I know in my case, If I was properly instructed on these things I would be much better off now (doing fine, but I mean even better with a nice head start). I cant imagine how many people dont get things in order and educate themselves and keep messing up and going bankrupt, defaulting, etc. I think in a typical High School curriculum, a year or 2 of personal finance class should be a no-brainer. Maybe even plant some seeds younger This is off-topic though. Not sure it would make a difference with Talley or a number of other entertainers/athletes who run out of money and earning potential. I just mean in general. I understand what you are saying. But, to use your example of Rent a Center, people want nice things, new things--whether they can afford them or not. You could spent 2 or 3 or 4 years in high school/Jr High telling kids not to spend what they don't have, but for some, it won't matter. The rest would have figured it out without the extra class work. Also, if kids didn't grow up seeing parents sacrifice for them (i.e., not buying the things they, the parents, really wanted), then the kids will not keep out of financial trouble. Most people have common sense, but some willingly/knowingly suspend it. That cannot be instructed away....
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 I think you are incorrect, or at least speaking too broadly. Personal Finance isn't mentioned in curriculum at any age, which is very strange to me. In 7th grade, my math class included six weeks of personal finance and budgeting. It's the only time I've ever heard of such a thing being taught. (It's also the only time I was counseled by the teacher and principal with "Look, we know you're performing poorly because you're way beyond this material and bored silly. It's the best we can teach you. So just work with us so we can advance you, please?")
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