Augie Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Well done OP on the foresight of Alonso being expendable. 99% of fans didn't think so. Props to Utah John, and to you sir, for finding this. I mentioned this thread when the trade went down, but was too stupid or lazy (or BOTH) to find it and bump it up. Kind of amusing now, though!
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I would seriously do this in a heart beat. Â Trade Kiko for 200 pounds of raw bear flesh, the bones of chuck Norris's mother, the severed head of the Ebola czar, and unfettered right to invade Canada. That would be pretty fair, IMO. I want to give props to me, because this was pretty darn funny.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 There should be a TBD annual award for most clairvoyant thread. Â Indeed. All hail Utah John :worthy: Â And it could be argued, since a franchise QB is not available, trading Kiko for a top-of-the-league RB is the closest thing we can achieve to it.
QCity Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Â If the OP in this thread had waited until after we had shut down Manning, Rodgers, and Brady with our defense, and then said, what if we get Rex Ryan as our head coach, would you trade Kiko for Shady McCoy? Everyone would have had a different answer and it very likely would have looked exactly like the threads this week. Â There's a similar thread on the "other" forum, except it was made in February. The results were the same. If we traded picks for Donte Whitner tomorrow, this fanbase would talk itself into loving it.
SJDK Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 You are. this is idiotic. just stop. seriously, it's an idiotic idea, no team is going to give up a good proven QB for a LB with 1 good year and then a torn up knee. How bout a RB? haha, I think we one the trade
MDH Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Looking back a year on threads is often hilarious and illuminating. Â If the OP in this thread had waited until after we had shut down Manning, Rodgers, and Brady with our defense, and then said, what if we get Rex Ryan as our head coach, would you trade Kiko for Shady McCoy? Everyone would have had a different answer and it very likely would have looked exactly like the threads this week. Â I don't think so. It only looks like this week's threads after it's done and people have talked themselves into liking it. People in this thread pretty much unanimously said that they wouldn't even consider trading Kiko unless it was for a franchise QB (and no team was going to do that.)
eball Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Â There's a similar thread on the "other" forum, except it was made in February. The results were the same. If we traded picks for Donte Whitner tomorrow, this fanbase would talk itself into loving it. Â Â Â I don't think so. It only looks like this week's threads after it's done and people have talked themselves into liking it. People in this thread pretty much unanimously said that they wouldn't even consider trading Kiko unless it was for a franchise QB (and no team was going to do that.) Â Â Somebody call CNN -- fans on a team message board are rooting for their team rather than being pessimistic little snots.
NoSaint Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Â I don't think so. It only looks like this week's threads after it's done and people have talked themselves into liking it. People in this thread pretty much unanimously said that they wouldn't even consider trading Kiko unless it was for a franchise QB (and no team was going to do that.) You don't think that two young lbs proving themselves more, a new coach, new scheme, our RBs all struggling and cj being gone, along with the specific mention of the name McCoy could've possibly swayed anyone's opinions at all? Â It surprised me quite a bit but if a "kiko for McCoy?" Thread started last week, you would've seen a lot of "I might like that"
Just in Atlanta Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Reading the comments from the people who bashed this OP is funny in hind sight.
truth on hold Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 OK, I'm not trolling or being intentionally argumentative. But here goes. We have a great defensive line, not just the starters but every backup as well. We have three really good LBs on the field, plus adequate backups. Where will Kiko fit next year, if the Bills are able to bring Spikes back?  On the other hand, the Bills desperately need upgrades at a couple of positions on the offensive side, and they could stand an upgrade at safety as well.  The question is, as good as Kiko is, would you trade him for a really good, proven, QB? How about two dominant offensive lineman? Or would you never want to trade him and are thinking of coming out to Utah to explain things to me in person? Really good proven QB: yes of course  Two dominant olineman: possibly  High priced RB: no
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Really good proven QB: yes of course  Two dominant olineman: possibly  High priced RB: no again his deal can be negotiated as the rumors indicate.  paying high for one of the best... that's how things work out in the NFL
Deranged Rhino Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 again his deal can be negotiated as the rumors indicate. Â paying high for one of the best... that's how things work out in the NFL Â JTSP doesn't understand capitalism. Or football. Or the cap. So, forgive him.
ChevyVanMiller Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Moral of this thread: if a poster proposes something that you think is ludicrous, take the high road in your response because it may take a coaching change and a switch in defensive philosophy, but it could come back to bite you in the a$$. Â Glad I didn't respond back in November and let me echo the kudos to Utah John.
Prickly Pete Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 Looking back a year on threads is often hilarious and illuminating. Â If the OP in this thread had waited until after we had shut down Manning, Rodgers, and Brady with our defense, and then said, what if we get Rex Ryan as our head coach, would you trade Kiko for Shady McCoy? Everyone would have had a different answer and it very likely would have looked exactly like the threads this week. Â Just give him his props....Have you ever admitted you were wrong in your life?
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 actually ... I hold off my apology until the Bills Officially announce the trade. Â No posting of the deal on the website like the Meh Cassel trade... hmmmmmm
Saint Doug Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) This was a classic thread, classic in the sense of watching someone getting ripped apart for having a differing opinion around here. Edited March 7, 2015 by Saint Doug
maddenboy Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) actually ... I hold off my apology until the Bills Officially announce the trade.  No posting of the deal on the website like the Meh Cassel trade... hmmmmmm  Dood, its a done deal. As in, they negotiated, reached agreement, and both teams informed both players and their agents. And informed CJ Spiller, who was scheduled to go on Live TV five minutes later. You havent heard a peep about either side denying it openly or through unnamed sources.  The OP is vindicated, in his idea that Kiko was tradeable, that OBD might consider trading him, and that another team would give up solid value (although obv not a franchise-type QB).  And at this point, if the trade doesnt happen, it will be about money, which wouldnt invalidate the OP's idea.  I'll give propers where propers is due. Edited March 7, 2015 by maddenboy
RyanC883 Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) How do u end up a bills fan in Utah? From Buffalo originally? Anyway, cool job of putting out what was an unpopular opinion and being correct. Edited March 7, 2015 by RyanC883
Jim in Anchorage Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 This was a classic thread, classic in the sense of watching someone getting ripped apart for having a differing opinion around here. The one where the OP stated the Bills where in Florida signing Incognito was better. 2 full pages of posters making buffoons of themselves explaining why the OP was a dimwit and it could never happen.
bananathumb Posted March 7, 2015 Posted March 7, 2015 Very revealing thread, in that it shows how much fans are blinded by team colors.
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