Rob's House Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 I don't get CNN, Fox, MSNBC etc...etc.... And I don't miss them at all. Me neither. It makes it all the more gratifying when someone accuses me of parroting Fox News.
Chef Jim Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Ladies and gentlemen, you're progressive anarchists at work... Most businesses destroyed in Ferguson are minority-owned. Of course it's always that way. The Rodney King riots saw them loot their own neighborhood businesses. That's got to be great for their local economy. The issue is many of the looters don't live there so they don't give a ****. The locals that joined in are just not very smart. Protest, yell, have sit-ins carry signs. When did looting help their cause at all. All this says is "see, this is why the police act the way they do sometimes."
B-Man Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Commentary on the NYT coverage: "Soon came the smoke bombs, the random sounds of bullets, the chaos that was almost as predictable as the verdict everyone expected." Thus appeared the absence of human agency in a sentence in a NYT article headlined: "From Plains to Both Coasts, Fury Boils Over" (NYT). Fury — as if disembodied from any person — did what fury does. Smoke bombs, random sounds, and chaos came. On their own? Did no person engage in the throwing of bombs? Bullet sounds were around, randomly, not connected to human fingers pulling triggers, and even the guns were not mentioned. Chaos simply arrived. How could it not? It was predictable. Predictable, not even predicted. Had there been prognosticators, they would have predicted the chaos, because it was predictable. But what was even more predictable was "the verdict everyone expected." Ah, finally! The sentence gets around to human beings: everyone. Everyone expected? Well, then what was all that suspense-provoking blabber from talking heads on CNN as we waited for the press conference? Were they just lying to keep us from switching back to "Monday Night Football"? But the NYT tells us that everyone expected the grand jury to decide there should be no prosecution of... oh, what was the police officer's name? I search the text. Late appears the name of the police officer, Darren Wilson. The name of the human being facing criminal prosecution and entitled to due process is tucked discreetly into the 16th paragraph of this New York Times article about the boiling of fury and the random noise-making of bullets. There are a few other names amid the inanimate forces of chaos and random bullets before we encounter the name of the man everyone predicted would not be prosecuted. Here's Brien Redmon — in paragraph 2 — who "stood in the cold watching a burning police car and sporadic looting." He's the first human being we see acting. His action was watching. And — because it was predictable and because chaos had arrived — a police car burned, as if by spontaneous combustion, and looting occurred, as if merchandise might on its own pick up and walk out of the shops. "The situation seemed to worsen as the night wore on, with fires and looting mostly limited to certain areas, but seemingly on the edge of spinning out of control." It would be indelicate to mention any human beings committing crimes. Just call it "The situation." Does a situation have a mind with any ability to decide whether or not to act, or does it "spin" — on its own — right up to some metaphorical "edge" beyond which lies that place called "out of control"? More at the link: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2014/11/soon-came-careful-phrases-and.html .
/dev/null Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Of course it's always that way. The Rodney King riots saw them loot their own neighborhood businesses. That's got to be great for their local economy. Paul Krugman might think so
Security Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Fox at least puts people on with different perspectives, they do in every segment on every show. I watched a lot of MSNBC during this, and they are really twisted. They tell their audience things like, "and we all know most everyone in this entire country disagrees with verdict", and most everyone knows this is a miscarriage of justice.
/dev/null Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Fox at least puts people on with different perspectives, they do in every segment on every show. I watched a lot of MSNBC during this, and they are really twisted. They tell their audience things like, "and we all know most everyone in this entire country disagrees with verdict", and most everyone knows this is a miscarriage of justice. And given the Groupthink mentality that MSNBC caters to, it is not entirely wrong when they make statements about "we all know" and "most everyone agrees". MSNBC has the smallest but I would argue most loyal viewer base because they go there to re-affirm a world view
DC Tom Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Fox at least puts people on with different perspectives, they do in every segment on every show. I watched a lot of MSNBC during this, and they are really twisted. They tell their audience things like, "and we all know most everyone in this entire country disagrees with verdict", and most everyone knows this is a miscarriage of justice. Fox was the only station that managed to interview anyone of Brown's family. Their reporting last night was actually...competent.
Azalin Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Fox was the only station that managed to interview anyone of Brown's family. Their reporting last night was actually...competent. Just my opinion, but their 'hard news' shows like Special Report and Fox News Sunday aren't bad. It's the Hannitys & the like that tilt the content so much.
B-Man Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 The difference in two news media alerts. Can you spot the difference?
Security Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Fox was the only station that managed to interview anyone of Brown's family. Their reporting last night was actually...competent. I did see that, Shepard Smith interviewing the cousin. Shep pressed him for answers, but gave the fellow the time to explain what he felt he needed to. Brown's cousin too reiterated, the looting and violent demonstrations are not warranted. Most seem to want to just have this case go to a real trial. Shep pressed him into almost seeming to say he knows the cop would not be convicted in a trial, but he just wanted a trial.
Tiberius Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Fox at least puts people on with different perspectives, they do in every segment on every show. I watched a lot of MSNBC during this, and they are really twisted. They tell their audience things like, "and we all know most everyone in this entire country disagrees with verdict", and most everyone knows this is a miscarriage of justice.
Security Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Just my opinion, but their 'hard news' shows like Special Report and Fox News Sunday aren't bad. It's the Hannitys & the like that tilt the content so much. Hannity just repeats his same words over and over again, they should have let him go when they gave Megyn Kelly her show and kept Greta where she was.
Tiberius Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 And given the Groupthink mentality that MSNBC caters to, it is not entirely wrong when they make statements about "we all know" and "most everyone agrees". MSNBC has the smallest but I would argue most loyal viewer base because they go there to re-affirm a world view Ha ha ha! YOU want to talk about groupthink? You are the very living embodiment of a groupthink sheep. Creep
DC Tom Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 I did see that, Shepard Smith interviewing the cousin. Shep pressed him for answers, but gave the fellow the time to explain what he felt he needed to. Brown's cousin too reiterated, the looting and violent demonstrations are not warranted. Most seem to want to just have this case go to a real trial. Shep pressed him into almost seeming to say he knows the cop would not be convicted in a trial, but he just wanted a trial. Shep's questions were rather leading, however. But he did give the cousin time to speak his peace without interruption, which was nice. And the cousin was very reasonable as well, particularly given the situation. All in all, a decent interview...far better than the CNN anchors interviewing each other about how their gas masks sucked.
Rob's House Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Hannity just repeats his same words over and over again, they should have let him go when they gave Megyn Kelly her show and kept Greta where she was. It's been a while since I listened to Hannity, but as I recall he did a pretty good show...and then repeated that 30 minute show for hours and hours and weeks and weeks.
Tiberius Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Fox was the only station that managed to interview anyone of Brown's family. Their reporting last night was actually...competent. Yes Tom, only the Conservative network got it right It's been a while since I listened to Hannity, but as I recall he did a pretty good show...and then repeated that 30 minute show for hours and hours and weeks and weeks. Big surprise here, you like Hannity!
Chef Jim Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Yes Tom, only the Conservative network got it right Big surprise here, you like Hannity! Ha ha ha! YOU want to talk about groupthink? You are the very living embodiment of a groupthink sheep. Creep
Security Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Of course it's always that way. The Rodney King riots saw them loot their own neighborhood businesses. That's got to be great for their local economy. The issue is many of the looters don't live there so they don't give a ****. The locals that joined in are just not very smart. Protest, yell, have sit-ins carry signs. When did looting help their cause at all. All this says is "see, this is why the police act the way they do sometimes." Disrupting commerce in any way is not constructive, I mean, standing in the middle of highways and not allowing trucks or whoever to drive to where they are needing to go. There is no greater good when this crap is done.
Chef Jim Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 My wife's boss got caught up in the "protests" in Oakland last night. She didn't get home until 1:00am. Dumbasses.
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