Beerball Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 15 consecutive years of below average football will do that too a fan base. sad really. Today's win gives the pats their 14th straight winning season. I hate those effers.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 belichick is the GOAT. simple as that. No he isn't.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Yes he is! Hasn't won since they were busted for cheating. Brown, Lombardi, Shula, Noll, and Walsh all better coaches.
PolishDave Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Hasn't won since they were busted for cheating. Brown, Lombardi, Shula, Noll, and Walsh all better coaches. Agreed! :thumbsup:
Best Player Available Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Hasn't won since they were busted for cheating. Brown, Lombardi, Shula, Noll, and Walsh all better coaches. Just for the reason of keeping your response some what relevant. I would seriously consider removing Shula from your list. My lord even Marv had his number. The undefeated season has nothing on the hoody's * dominance of the conference for a very long time. Not to mention the division dominance which is laughable. trust me I Really dislike the guy but Shula couldn't hold his jock for gameday coaching and just complete dominance of his opponents.
BackInDaDay Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 You are prisoner of the moment. That 2007 team was one of the best teams in NFL history. That team got up a couple scores on teams early, and forced them to abandon their run game. With Gronk healthy, this O is just as capable of making you play catchup - but now they can shutdown your #1 receiver with Revis, and give help where needed. This adds a dimension the old team didn't have.. and they were as you say - one of the best
26CornerBlitz Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Just for the reason of keeping your response some what relevant. I would seriously consider removing Shula from your list. My lord even Marv had his number. The undefeated season has nothing on the hoody's * dominance of the conference for a very long time. Not to mention the division dominance which is laughable. trust me I Really dislike the guy but Shula couldn't hold his jock for gameday coaching and just complete dominance of his opponents. Shula built two franchises into winners in Baltimore and Miami. Definitely an all time great coach. Belichick has dominated a division with three dysfunctional franchises and won each of his three Super bowls by a FG with a competitive advantage (FN cheater!). BFD! Shula's 70's teams had to compete against the Steelers and Raiders in the AFC. Two other great teams! Edited November 23, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz
Pneumonic Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Belichick has dominated in an era where the salary cap is meant for parity amongst the league. Though we'll never know how the other HC's mentioned in the same breath as Belichick would have done with such a significant restriction, I think most anyone who views this with any sense of objectivity, will see why Belichick is already viewed as the best ever by many. A bunch more wins and it'll be a no brainer.
Prickly Pete Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 I'd take him over Lombardi. Nuff said.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Belichick has dominated in an era where the salary cap is meant for parity amongst the league. Though we'll never know how the other HC's mentioned in the same breath as Belichick would have done with such a significant restriction, I think most anyone who views this with any sense of objectivity, will see why Belichick is already viewed as the best ever by many. A bunch more wins and it'll be a no brainer. Dominated? The only dominant team he had was in the regular season when they went 16-0, but lost the SB to the Giants. They haven't dominated anything except for a weak AFC East.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 I'd take him over Lombardi. Nuff said. The football expert has spoken. Discussion over.
Prickly Pete Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 The football expert has spoken. Discussion over. Bickering over how great Belichick is....
26CornerBlitz Posted November 23, 2014 Posted November 23, 2014 Bickering over how great Belichick is.... It's a legitimate debate as to where he stacks up among the all time great coaches.
Prickly Pete Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 It's a legitimate debate as to where he stacks up among the all time great coaches. There is no real answer for that, because the NFL, and circumstances have changed so much. But knock yerself out... All I know is that, in what is easily the most strategically sophisticated era of football, he has been the premier coach for over a decade.
Captain Hindsight Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 That team got up a couple scores on teams early, and forced them to abandon their run game. With Gronk healthy, this O is just as capable of making you play catchup - but now they can shutdown your #1 receiver with Revis, and give help where needed. This adds a dimension the old team didn't have.. and they were as you say - one of the best The 07 team has Asante Samual who was no slouch. That team was unbelievable
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