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I'm not worried about the planet being destroyed I'm worried about a degradation of the planets ability to support human life- the way these people think it's like they know nothing of the Dust-bowl, which is clear evidence that human activity can cause massive environmental degradation.

 

My contentions isn't that humans are incapable of altering the environment, it's the idea that carbon credits is the solution to global warming (especially since the left has admitted it will just add the increased tax revenue to the general fund)

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I'm not worried about the planet being destroyed I'm worried about a degradation of the planets ability to support human life- the way these people think it's like they know nothing of the Dust-bowl, which is clear evidence that human activity can cause massive environmental degradation.

His religious conviction is arguably more threatening than ISiS because it represents an existential threat to the species. And to think he was in the running for the most influentual energy policy role in America.

 

My contentions isn't that humans are incapable of altering the environment, it's the idea that carbon credits is the solution to global warming (especially since the left has admitted it will just add the increased tax revenue to the general fund)

So than what's your solution? You admit theres this huge problem but then offer no alternative? Clearly a government policy is needed because even most individuals who concede the issue don't see their use at the margin enough to effect the outcome. It's the collective restrictive use enforced by states that needed. Edited by JTSP
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So than what's your solution? You admit theres this huge problem but then offer no alternative? Clearly a government policy is needed because even most individuals who concede the issue don't see their use at the margin enough to effect the outcome. It's the collective restrictive use enforced by states that needed.

 

So then what's your solution?

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So then what's your solution?

cool. if we can all agree there's a problem then maybe we can agree to some measures that will at least slow the damage.

I'm not worried about the planet being destroyed I'm worried about a degradation of the planets ability to support human life- the way these people think it's like they know nothing of the Dust-bowl, which is clear evidence that human activity can cause massive environmental degradation.

i wonder what he thought of the movie "noah". i'm guessing he would have been one of those gorging on the animals collected for the ark if he had around back then. would have needed his ass burned by a flaming bush to get the gist. strange movie tho that just didn't quite work.

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should be clear from my posts.

 

carbon credits

 

i dont care about fine tuning tax inequities and delaying action when the species is at risk. completely irrational to put tax ahead of extinction risk

 

The reason I've never supported carbon credits as a method of addressing AGW is because I don't see how buying carbon credits actually helps anything. I'd like to hear a reasoned explanation of how they work, if you could offer one.

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The reason I've never supported carbon credits as a method of addressing AGW is because I don't see how buying carbon credits actually helps anything. I'd like to hear a reasoned explanation of how they work, if you could offer one.

It's supposed to bring awareness to an individual's impact on the environment. It's like snapping a rubber band when you're on a diet. Paying carbon credits is self punishment for using too many resources.

 

It also allows the carbon credit receiver to avoid getting a real job. (and keeps his SUV in the garage)

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The reason I've never supported carbon credits as a method of addressing AGW is because I don't see how buying carbon credits actually helps anything. I'd like to hear a reasoned explanation of how they work, if you could offer one.

 

Carbon credits are the modern equivalent of Indulgences

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Carbon credits are the modern equivalent of Indulgences

 

Except that "carbon credits" are intended to be traded between companies. You buy carbon credits from a "clean" company, not from the Church of Climate Change.

 

But when the government institutes a carbon tax, then that'll be an excellent analogy.

 

And I'd bet no small amount of money that the foundation for that - strict, legally binding restrictions on carbon emissions, requiring federal action to implement - is one of the big secrets buried in the TPP.

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It's supposed to bring awareness to an individual's impact on the environment. It's like snapping a rubber band when you're on a diet. Paying carbon credits is self punishment for using too many resources.

 

 

From what I can tell, that seems to be a reasonable assessment of the concept in general. Can any AGW proponents clarify further?

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Will the Left drop it and move on thanks to their newfound “Court has spoken so it’s final” attitude that arose a couple days ago?

 

 

yeah, right... :rolleyes:

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They are now blaming shark attacks on global warming errrrrrrrr I mean climate change.LOL,Silly liberals and the poor taxpayers money that funds their nonsense.

 

They changed the regs on sharks in 2000. Could that have something to do with it?

 

http://savannahnow.com/stories/061900/SPTshark.shtml#.VZQ6g2fbJaQ

 

FTA

 

"Federal regulations, which cover all ocean waters from the three mile state boundaries to 200 miles out, will become very restrictive for all recreational fisherman along the coast, and particularly in South Carolina where state laws automatically fall in line with federal mandates."

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They are now blaming shark attacks on global warming errrrrrrrr I mean climate change.LOL,Silly liberals and the poor taxpayers money that funds their nonsense.

 

Now, now. Even the Pope warns us on global warming.

 

I mean, he's wrong about the act of homosexual sex being a sin, but he's completely right about global warming cuz, y'know, he's the pope and all.

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They changed the regs on sharks in 2000. Could that have something to do with it?

 

http://savannahnow.com/stories/061900/SPTshark.shtml#.VZQ6g2fbJaQ

 

FTA

 

"Federal regulations, which cover all ocean waters from the three mile state boundaries to 200 miles out, will become very restrictive for all recreational fisherman along the coast, and particularly in South Carolina where state laws automatically fall in line with federal mandates."

 

Partially that, since herring schools are at 20-year highs (up from being overfished 4 years ago). But also because the water inshore is warmer and more saline than usual, so sharks are coming inshore much more than normal, which is favorable to sharks. Basically, of the Carolinas the sharks have a nice, comfortable room full of snack foods...and occasionally they grab a person by mistake.

 

There was just another attack about three hours ago. That's seven in about two weeks.

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Partially that, since herring schools are at 20-year highs (up from being overfished 4 years ago). But also because the water inshore is warmer and more saline than usual, so sharks are coming inshore much more than normal, which is favorable to sharks. Basically, of the Carolinas the sharks have a nice, comfortable room full of snack foods...and occasionally they grab a person by mistake.

 

 

 

Now, now. Even the Pope warns us on global warming.

 

I mean, he's wrong about the act of homosexual sex being a sin, but he's completely right about global warming cuz, y'know, he's the pope and all.

Yeah I hear he has some socialist woman scheduled to speak on climate change on his behalf.

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From what I can tell, that seems to be a reasonable assessment of the concept in general. Can any AGW proponents clarify further?

1- I'm not necessarily an AGW proponent.

2- One way:'Companies' will be issued carbon credits allowing them to pollute 'x' amount. Companies that got 'cleaner' would pollute less, and could then sell their excess credits to 'dirtier' companies , with the goal being an overall reduction in carbon 'credits' being issued per year. The idea is that some companies can reduce their carbon emissions much more cheaply than others, and this provides an incentive for those who can cut emissions in the most efficient ways to do so.

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1- I'm not necessarily an AGW proponent.

2- One way:'Companies' will be issued carbon credits allowing them to pollute 'x' amount. Companies that got 'cleaner' would pollute less, and could then sell their excess credits to 'dirtier' companies , with the goal being an overall reduction in carbon 'credits' being issued per year. The idea is that some companies can reduce their carbon emissions much more cheaply than others, and this provides an incentive for those who can cut emissions in the most efficient ways to do so.

TRANSLATION: More jobs lost in the good old USA due to a nonexistent liberal crisis.

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